2016 Postmortem

wundermaus

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160. You have a good night as well.

Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:25 AM

Oct 2015

Been politically engaged since 1968 so my bias runs deep.
I try to see both side of an issue but must admit, over the years my patience has run out.
The clincher for me last night was was the question ..."the most pressing issues facing our country right now, some of the biggest issues right now"...

Bernie Sanders - "The scientific community is telling us if we do not address the global crisis of climate change, transform our energy system away from fossil fuel to sustainable energy, the planet that we're going to be leaving our kids and our grandchildren may well not be habitable," Sanders said. "That is a major crisis."

His answer nailed it for me. Everything else vanishes by comparison. Our generation will die off naturally as they should. However... Future generations will be extinct by what we fail to do now.

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Sander's supporters: What would you do if Bernie ultimately asks you to vote for Hillary? [View all] CajunBlazer Oct 2015 OP

If he isn't the nominee, of course he would endorse her. I think most Sanders supporters know this. aidbo Oct 2015 #1

I will do what I have to do. What will you do if Hillary asks you to vote for Bernie or Webb Autumn Oct 2015 #2

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee of course. (n/t) CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #15

I'm not giving up on O'Malley; but, ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #33

I wanted to ask if you had seen this. 5 days before he said her name at the debate. Autumn Oct 2015 #47

Yes I did ... 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #48

Yeah and you notice that he didn't politicize it? It was personal to him. Just wanted to ask if you Autumn Oct 2015 #50

Why would he politicize the meeting? I'm missing something here. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Oct 2015 #57

Pointing it out is fine Chitown Kev Oct 2015 #170

Yes, and we would never have known from Bernie that when he did mention her name, he was keeping sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #150

Let it go, Sabrina artislife Oct 2015 #171

Best answer... malokvale77 Oct 2015 #68

BS! That's a cope out answer! No one is asking anyone to swear a loyalty oath. CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #92

Well OK! malokvale77 Oct 2015 #99

It is again not a loyalty oath question - but see, that didn't hurt, did it? CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #101

Not a bit. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #104

This really is not the time for the Pledge-y Thing. Again. djean111 Oct 2015 #3

Yep, endorsing her now is saying that we will excuse her not changing on those issues... cascadiance Oct 2015 #14

Pledge-y? You need to stop saying that, all of you do, this has NOTHING to do with randys1 Oct 2015 #54

No, what needs to stop - is asking this question, time and time again. djean111 Oct 2015 #64

She really cant win if Bernie supporters stay home randys1 Oct 2015 #67

Well duh. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #71

Oh, I thought we were just an insignificant little bunch of "Hillary-haters". djean111 Oct 2015 #74

Exactly. We don't matter, she'll win without us. That's what has been said all along. What changed? peacebird Oct 2015 #78

Oh bullshit Capt. Obvious Oct 2015 #85

2 OPs from the same poster...shrug artislife Oct 2015 #172

No one is asking you to pledge a thing. It is a simple legitimate question.... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #98

makin a list and checking it twice reddread Oct 2015 #114

^^^^^Thread winner^^^^^ azurnoir Oct 2015 #173

I figured I'd do that all along. n/t brewens Oct 2015 #4

I'd thank him for his opinion and say "no". Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #5

+1 MissDeeds Oct 2015 #32

Me too peacebird Oct 2015 #76

Maybe Nader will get in the race redstateblues Oct 2015 #127

EEEEK!! NADER!!! Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #163

Express my disappointment, of course. Lizzie Poppet Oct 2015 #6

Respectfully decline Kelvin Mace Oct 2015 #7

If Clinton is the nominee, my state will go to the Republican. jeff47 Oct 2015 #8

What will Hillary supporter's do when Hillary endorses Bernie? Bernblu Oct 2015 #9

I would vote for Bernie. CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #18

I will probably vote for Hillary Bernblu Oct 2015 #25

Bernie enid602 Oct 2015 #28

I would absolutely vote for Bernie if he got the nomination. musicblind Oct 2015 #166

I'm voting for the nominee. It should be Sanders. n/t lumberjack_jeff Oct 2015 #10

I think disenchanted voters would likely stay home Fearless Oct 2015 #11

We have absentee ballots here artislife Oct 2015 #30

I will choose to vote for someone on my own ibegurpard Oct 2015 #12

^^^ this ^^^ malokvale77 Oct 2015 #77

....x10+ 840high Oct 2015 #97

To ask if people will vote in their self interest is not insulting.... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #103

Who said I wouldn't? ibegurpard Oct 2015 #139

Sorry you are so easily insulted. CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #143

I wouldn't be insulted if he did that ibegurpard Oct 2015 #146

I think you need to read my original post again..... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #155

Of course I'd vote for Hillary Dem2 Oct 2015 #13

Then don't wait demwing Oct 2015 #27

I may indeed to that Dem2 Oct 2015 #31

She's horrible but I would vote for her. JRLeft Oct 2015 #16

My support isn't tranferrable. Any other candidates will be evaluated individually. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #17

Senator Clinton is not fit for office, IMO.... mike_c Oct 2015 #19

I'll write-in floriduck Oct 2015 #20

If there is no cheating by her campaign, or on her behalf then yes AgingAmerican Oct 2015 #21

I'll write-in Sanders. Gregorian Oct 2015 #22

No. Howler Oct 2015 #23

Same thing I would do if he asked me to vote for trump...... bowens43 Oct 2015 #24

Not Vote - That Is An Option For All Citizens cantbeserious Oct 2015 #26

I'll vote for the party's nominee no matter who it is. BillZBubb Oct 2015 #29

Bernie is not the keeper of my conscience. winter is coming Oct 2015 #34

I'd vote for Clinton, then start a petition to have her impeached. OilemFirchen Oct 2015 #35

bernie respects people's freedom too much to ever tell us who to vote for restorefreedom Oct 2015 #36

The people saying they won't vote for Hillary even if Bernie endorses her... Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #37

Consider the possibility that it's possible to support a candidate winter is coming Oct 2015 #45

Bit of a stretch. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #79

Or it could be just a blatant attempt senz Oct 2015 #88

I know, right? malokvale77 Oct 2015 #94

So...you're not trained in logic? DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #113

You owe me a new keyboard! n/t winter is coming Oct 2015 #177

Well, since am a Sanders supporter, and won't be voting for Hillary, Doctor_J Oct 2015 #123

You claim to be a Bernie supporter. That's about it. nt Cali_Democrat Oct 2015 #124

For that particular subgroup ... JoePhilly Oct 2015 #128

Back the fuck up! ibegurpard Oct 2015 #140

. LondonReign2 Oct 2015 #181

Just like I do every election Android3.14 Oct 2015 #38

I'm in the middle of reading his autobiography "Outsider in the White House" retrowire Oct 2015 #39

How is the book so far? NCTraveler Oct 2015 #86

It's great!!! retrowire Oct 2015 #93

I'd vote for her ram2008 Oct 2015 #40

THAT is the elephant (or should I say donkey?) in the room! BuelahWitch Oct 2015 #43

I will likely hold my nose and vote for her, BuelahWitch Oct 2015 #41

A bullshit new version of the threat that's been dangled for 25 years Armstead Oct 2015 #42

I will vote for her if she is the nominee, he does not need to ask. Motown_Johnny Oct 2015 #44

I'll let Hillary know if she can count on my vote... Ino Oct 2015 #46

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If she turns out to be the nominee, I WILL vote for her. . . DinahMoeHum Oct 2015 #51

Shame so many Sanders supporters in this thread are going to pull a puma. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #58

You have the right to your decision but i don't respect anyone not voting for the nominee on this hrmjustin Oct 2015 #62

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Oct 2015 #65

Party loyalty seems like a meaningless concept to me anymore. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #111

Well that is your choice but if she is thr nominee I am glad we have rules about trashing the hrmjustin Oct 2015 #116

Yes, yes, you want to see me banned. I knew that before I answered. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #119

Lol you never stop. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #120

I don't think you understand. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #81

That is bull. You could try to whitewash what they are doing but if you guys don't vote hrmjustin Oct 2015 #84

Bull you say. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #90

Oh yes you are all ice cream and pure thoughts. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #91

You sound a little bitter. malokvale77 Oct 2015 #95

I am sick of the double standards here. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #96

"I am sick of the double standards here." malokvale77 Oct 2015 #100

I am sick of people who excuse Sander supporters who will not vote for Hillary as the nominee hrmjustin Oct 2015 #102

Links please. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #105

Look for your own links. And look toward your own reaction. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #110

Don't claim what you can't prove. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #126

Your own reaction is proof enough. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #129

Go with that. Lame as it is. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #136

True it is. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #138

LOL malokvale77 Oct 2015 #141

Did not ask you to but rest well. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #142

This must be that respect you were so proud of up thread on display here SwampG8r Oct 2015 #164

shame that the party elites restorefreedom Oct 2015 #132

Do you approve of pumas? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #133

i believe we should all vote restorefreedom Oct 2015 #134

Did you derided the pumas of 2008? hrmjustin Oct 2015 #137

i don't think i was around here at that time restorefreedom Oct 2015 #144

The PUMAS had nary a policy, ideological, principle, value, or worldview TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #165

this is the primary process.... DianeK Oct 2015 #53

Those girls are cuties senz Oct 2015 #115

I will vote for whichever DEM is nominated. Binkie The Clown Oct 2015 #55

What would you do if Hillary ultimately asks to to vote for Bernie? daleanime Oct 2015 #56

I will vote for Bernie if he is the nominee without hesitation CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #109

Kind of doesn't need to be asked.... daleanime Oct 2015 #147

Mr. "I Have a Conscious"? WorseBeforeBetter Oct 2015 #162

With all respect to Bernie Sanders, and I have a lot of it tularetom Oct 2015 #59

If Hillary should win the primaries, I would automatically support her even without Bernie's Cal33 Oct 2015 #60

If Hillary is the nominee, Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #61

It is asked of HRC supporters every week. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #63

I assume you mean "time"? Blue_In_AK Oct 2015 #66

Not as often as we are asked. hrmjustin Oct 2015 #69

Hah. nt malokvale77 Oct 2015 #87

... Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Oct 2015 #70

I will vote, but not for Hillary. peacebird Oct 2015 #72

I like turtles. frylock Oct 2015 #73

Throw Up... WillyT Oct 2015 #75

The only living politician I would listen to AT ALL on that topic is Jimmy Carter. elehhhhna Oct 2015 #80

No one would have to ask me to vote Sanders in the general. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #82

I'm sure he'd endorse her if he drops out. TDale313 Oct 2015 #83

Has it occurred to you that Sanders supporters might be getting just a little senz Oct 2015 #89

+ One googool! Admiral Loinpresser Oct 2015 #107

Good grief, this whiny boo hoo bullshit again? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Oct 2015 #106

No, why? Is ideas and the character of the candidate who I am voting for, sorry. Yupy Oct 2015 #108

I will do what I have always done... Kalidurga Oct 2015 #112

Here is what will happen... quickesst Oct 2015 #117

Is dissapproval for Wallstreet, war etc. Yupy Oct 2015 #121

Your post... quickesst Oct 2015 #151

Likewise ..is not even a coherent rebuttal of my statement. Yupy Oct 2015 #174

Ok.... quickesst Oct 2015 #176

Yep, our disapproval of Clinton's vote for the Iraq War and her pro-banking policies. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #149

So, one can only assume.... quickesst Oct 2015 #152

You know what happens when one assumes? nt Live and Learn Oct 2015 #154

Yeah I know... quickesst Oct 2015 #175

Loyalty oaths have no fucking business on a Democratic forum DirtyHippyBastard Oct 2015 #118

Anyone who carefully reads my original post and interperates it as a request..... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #158

I comprehend just fine, thanks DirtyHippyBastard Oct 2015 #161

He can ask...but I won't do it. n/t Chan790 Oct 2015 #122

Why worry? According to the new hate site, and its members who are also DUers, Doctor_J Oct 2015 #125

I'll vote for the Democratic nominee. Eric J in MN Oct 2015 #130

Bernie's free to vote for whomever he chooses. So am I and it won't be The Hillary in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #131

Listen to the chorus.... wundermaus Oct 2015 #135

I guess I can't hear the crickets .... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #145

When I first read your response... wundermaus Oct 2015 #153

I am not surprised that you originally misread my response..... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #156

You have a good night as well. wundermaus Oct 2015 #160

I too have a huge concern about global warming..... CajunBlazer Oct 2015 #179

In that horrible and unlikely scenario, I'd probably vote for her BUT Live and Learn Oct 2015 #148

Question is apples and oranges bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #157

Shake my head in sad recognition that we are fucked F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #159

I'll join you PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #167

How many times are you going to ask the same question? artislife Oct 2015 #168

It depends on whether Hillary plans to use her executive power to treat apostrophe abuse like the Warren DeMontague Oct 2015 #169

If Sanders pushes forward an active, campaigning endorsement of Clinton, his supporters would be MADem Oct 2015 #178

Clean the house that day. Oops! nt Romulox Oct 2015 #180