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apnu

(8,768 posts)
24. Interesting notions
Fri Aug 31, 2012, 01:33 PM
Aug 2012

For #1. I do that. I've learned that, when you remove discussing a specific politician or party and just start talking about issues we are not very far from each other. We both don't like high unemployment, we both don't like debt, we both don't like the rigged financial system. I try to show them that Democrats aren't the demons their Fox News makes them out to be. I've found that the discussion then, becomes very reasonable and constructive.

#2 I tell them to turn off the TV, and if they get a news story, they should look for the same story on another site, one that doesn't have the same bias that their original article produced. From there, the common points will be the actual truth and the divergent points are the opinion injected into the piece. They don't like the time sink that generates, but I remind them that on the important issues, its best to slow down and really think it over before deciding anything.

#3 This is hard. They have a whole ecosystem of information that they circle around amongst themselves. I've seen a lot of it and most of it is devoid sources, and if there's a source its very dubious. Like Krauthammer says blah, blah, blah. They have a very poor sense of what is a fact and what is an opinion. I have a special Fuck You stored for Fox News for blurring this line.

#4 These guys are financial types, the long game is very difficult for them to conceptualize. But I do try to get them to see it. I try to get them to agree on topics like: who wants a polluted America? Who wants dirty drinking water and filthy parks? Who wants to leave that sludge for our kids? Once they agree in principle, I gently, try to guide them around to more environmental awareness. I try to let them come to this realization on their own. Nobody likes someone preaching, so the quickest way to get them to ignore me is to give them a lecture.

#5 I don't think they know how their local people are. I have not heard of them volunteering their time for elections or attending community meetings that aren't the PTA. One guy likes to troll his town's message boards, but that's because it amuses him to make fun of his own town. Another guy gets very excited about the election, but in a super fan sense, the kind that always goes to the Super Bowl no matter who is in it. But that's the extent of their volunteerism. However, I will see if they know who their local reps are and remind them they're welcome to chatter at them anytime. Being involved, even if it is just writing the occasional letter to a state senator or Congress critter, is important.

You should really feed them Romney policy that they are missing Fresh_Start Aug 2012 #1
and all his nostalgia for the Cold War. Poking the (Russian) bear is just so much FUN! summerschild Aug 2012 #4
Romney chose to make the election a referendum on Obama wielding the economy as a club... Agnosticsherbet Aug 2012 #2
Tell them to stay home. atreides1 Aug 2012 #3
Help me understand this mojo2012 Aug 2012 #5
What they want is to know the rules of the game. apnu Aug 2012 #8
That is nonsense Cosmocat Aug 2012 #40
They don't say that to blame Obama... apnu Aug 2012 #41
Most people who say they want 'less regulation'......... Wounded Bear Sep 2012 #45
Heh. The policy is to fuck the American people. sofa king Aug 2012 #6
And make NO MISTAKE, bush* and cheney* were planning on invading Iraq... Raster Aug 2012 #11
Here's what happened to me & what I hope happens to other dems like me. CrispyQ Aug 2012 #7
i like it. (nt) apnu Aug 2012 #9
I am outraged at the behavior I see! CrispyQ Aug 2012 #12
Advise them to stay home on the 6th. Then they won't feel guilty. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #10
That's not my thing. If anything I think every person who can vote should vote. apnu Aug 2012 #13
Curiously, the GOP wants the opposite. I agree that our problem is low turnout (all parties), but... HopeHoops Aug 2012 #14
I don't think it is curious that the GOP is high on voter suppression. apnu Aug 2012 #17
Sneeches they be. And attrition will eliminate the party. They don't even take care of the seniors. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #22
Australia is light-years ahead of us in this-- marions ghost Aug 2012 #31
Yeah, they also dumped the penny 25 years ago. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #33
And went metric and had seat belt laws long before the US. marions ghost Aug 2012 #34
Yeah, but they still have kangaroos and rabbits out the ass! We don't matter to them. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #35
We do matter to them politically marions ghost Aug 2012 #37
Hmm. Sounds like a good time for a Vegemite sandwich. HopeHoops Aug 2012 #38
extra thick, ta, WITH butta marions ghost Aug 2012 #39
This is a rhetorical question, not aimed at you! indie_voter Aug 2012 #15
For the Republicans I know, I can say this... apnu Aug 2012 #19
Thank you for this very thoughtful reply! :) n/t indie_voter Aug 2012 #26
I don't understand what they don't like about EC Aug 2012 #16
Some of them have tried to tell me we haven't recovered in spite of what the DJA says. apnu Aug 2012 #20
Encourage them to vote for Obama to send a message to Republicans. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #18
Interesting notions apnu Aug 2012 #24
Outside my office JustAnotherGen Aug 2012 #21
None of them in my office thinks Romney will win. apnu Aug 2012 #28
That's it JustAnotherGen Sep 2012 #46
Offer Them Your Chair Yavin4 Aug 2012 #23
LOL! apnu Aug 2012 #25
That probably indicates ann--- Aug 2012 #27
That's what I'm thinking apnu Aug 2012 #29
I also work with mostly repubs 1GirlieGirl Aug 2012 #30
May I suggest you buy the next edition of Rolling Stone for Mark Taibbi's articles, and... Amonester Aug 2012 #36
at the next meeting raise your hand and say "with all of the gnashing of teeth that is going on grantcart Aug 2012 #32
Why waste your time? It seems as if they want you to provide them reasons why... Tom Ripley Sep 2012 #42
I din 't make any efforts. Yhey come to me. apnu Sep 2012 #43
apnu, see if you can get them to vote for woolldog Sep 2012 #44
Who can blame them? melvinmartinez Sep 2012 #47
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