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In reply to the discussion: Attacking Bernie for seeking Conscientious Objector status may be the most laughable smear yet [View all]beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)236. You failed to back up your claim so yes, you lost the debate. It's not a difficult concept.
You declaring yourself a winner is the logical fallacy.
You psting cartoons is a logical fallacy.
I didn't really give a crap what group you posted, but it obviously matters greatly to you. Don't give Ia crap about your cartoons either, but I see you posted something childish.
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Attacking Bernie for seeking Conscientious Objector status may be the most laughable smear yet [View all]
cali
Dec 2015
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And is that less principled than the "bone spur" medical deferment that Trump got to avoid service?
cascadiance
Dec 2015
#10
Bush Sr. used his influence to keep jr out of Nam and the man who went in his place died there.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#15
we can't say names, but one said this AM that Sanders wasn't a CO but a "draft dodger" n/t
zazen
Dec 2015
#108
Bill Clinton deferred. not a smart move here. Hillary didn't join and bill shirked. Bernie faced it
roguevalley
Dec 2015
#124
Which is why I feel good about voting for Sanders and wish everyone would do so.
cui bono
Dec 2015
#150
I completely disagree with that. Hillary is the one who will lose in the general.
cui bono
Dec 2015
#253
Don't forget the illustrious Dan Quayle in your roster that shall live in infamy. Daniel Ellsbeg
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#194
I wonder why the OP couldn't be specific about such "attacks". Perhaps because they haven't....
George II
Dec 2015
#29
That is the person who was bragging about trying to get Cali's posts hidden
HoneychildMooseMoss
Dec 2015
#51
I don't think anyone has seen it. As a matter of fact, when talking to and corresponding to....
George II
Dec 2015
#88
This AM, a regular pro-Clinton poster said Sanders wasn't a CO but a "draft dodger" (i.e, criminal)
zazen
Dec 2015
#109
Some are even implying he tried to avoid being drafted by going to a kibbutz in Israel.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#171
As someone who obtained a CO, i have no problem with those that found other ways to avoid service
onenote
Dec 2015
#48
Mitt Romney satisfies the conditions spelled out in your last sentence. There are
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#195
We are quick to point out hypocracy of anyone that is a war hawk but failed to go themeslves.
rhett o rick
Dec 2015
#113
I admire him for it. And, as a draft counselor, during the VN war I advised people to do the same.
Tierra_y_Libertad
Dec 2015
#9
Incredibly lame. Something I would (and do) expect from Republicans, but not Democrats.
Scuba
Dec 2015
#11
that's also why they're red-baiting: 1. Clinton's from the Kirkpatrick/Scoop Jackson wing of the
MisterP
Dec 2015
#27
Has the Clinton campaign said anything about Bernie's status during Vietnam?
Cali_Democrat
Dec 2015
#66
When the Clinton camp attacks Bernie it almost always feels like a Republican attack. nt
stillwaiting
Dec 2015
#14
It shows how many "ex" Republicans, tax-objectors, and all around Rightwingers nest here. nt
Romulox
Dec 2015
#16
I see a lot of accusations in this thread that the Clinton camp has attacked Sanders on this.
BlueCheese
Dec 2015
#17
It's just red meat thrown out there to see the feeding frenzy on this non-existent "attack".
George II
Dec 2015
#32
Except you claimed Bernie didn't run for president sooner because of his "draft dodger status":
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#154
I have no idea. Now where's the evidence backing up your bizarre allegation?
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#196
No others are also confused by your claim, why can't you back it up?
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#204
Glad to see you're admitting you made up the theory. Now you can move on.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#214
I'm talking about your bizarre theory, the veterans I know don't have a problem with COs.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#220
You failed to back up your claim so yes, you lost the debate. It's not a difficult concept.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#236
It is performance art, I knew it! No one could be that logic challenged.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#245
Says who? Several Hillary supporters accused Bernie of being a draft dodger.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#158
Goodman? Wait, didn't you rec a thread linking to racist tea party website progressivestoday?
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#170
You were discussing articles from questionable sources, weren't you?
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#173
No you don't, obviously. I never said any of that. Here, let me help you:
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#179
I don't follow celebrities but I'm sure it's as important as the Kardashians' endorsement.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#186
Important campaign issues like your ops about pot smoking hippies in Vermont and draft dodgers?
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#190
Sanders has always been a man of Peace, for me that is a huge positive for a President.
Sunlei
Dec 2015
#36
THe more Bernie grows in this race, the greater and more diabolical the attacks will be.
Ferd Berfel
Dec 2015
#39
You can't really tell much difference between hillarians and republicans any more
Doctor_J
Dec 2015
#45
Thanks. I posted a pic version of this last night. yours is more up to date. It explains, as
Doctor_J
Dec 2015
#98
Juror #6 is a real piece of work. He or she needs to bone up on his or her spelling,
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#200
What possible purpose did the Vietnam War serve anyway? Like Iraq and Afghanistan, Vietnam
Enthusiast
Dec 2015
#63
He hasn't adequately explained why he has changed his mind on being a Conscientious Objector
Freddie Stubbs
Dec 2015
#72
When it's a Hillary supporter doing it you have to wonder what they're thinking.
beam me up scottie
Dec 2015
#75
While I deeply respect the sacrifices of those who emigrated or received CO status (and alternative
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#205
Vs people who, comparatively, exhibit vanishingly little conscience. Not even a contest. n/t
jtuck004
Dec 2015
#77
LOL, once again, many Bernie fans LOVE Warren. Think really hard about that! LOL. nt
Logical
Dec 2015
#134
For boomers,especially males who faced conscription Vietnam was a big deal
HereSince1628
Dec 2015
#90
'pointless pissing matches' - with all due respect to your otherwise fine post, I don't
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#215
Speaking from the US perspective it was a pointless proxy war, re liberation...
HereSince1628
Dec 2015
#249
Geesh. Do you even bother to read a thread before you post? LInks to the relevant posts and
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#222
HRC's supporters should show the grace that Kerry did in 1992 when he defended her husband's Vietnam
karynnj
Dec 2015
#97
well, they're competing for most contemptible and baseless or hypocritical smear
stupidicus
Dec 2015
#102
Not unlike the attacks Bernie's supporters have mounted about the Clinton "scandals" from the '90s
baldguy
Dec 2015
#119
Where do you think the idea that the Clintons are corrupt & untrustworthy comes from?
baldguy
Dec 2015
#153
Desparate for sure, this is a most uneducated and disgusting thread ever on DU!
ViseGrip
Dec 2015
#133
At least he had the balls to stand for something. He could have gotten multiple
silvershadow
Dec 2015
#122
Silly SilverShadow, don't you know that Cheney merely had 'othe priorities'? Hope
KingCharlemagne
Dec 2015
#223
Oh that's right. Thanks for jogging my memory. I forgot the elite have the luxury of
silvershadow
Dec 2015
#239
Who the hell from the Clinton campaign ever said that? Or who here? What a ridiculous ....
Hekate
Dec 2015
#130
He committed the offense of being a CO, and dammit, people here will make him ANSWER for it!
Warren DeMontague
Dec 2015
#137
I was drafted and was sent to Vietnam. I don't care what others did to avoid the war.
upaloopa
Dec 2015
#178