2016 Postmortem

Doctor_J

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4. Those now called "extreme" by the Republicans and DINOs really want very reasonable things

Reply to Douglas Carpenter (Original post)

Sun Jan 3, 2016, 01:20 PM

Jan 2016

As Michael Parenti described so eloquently in Dirty Truths (and this was 20 years ago mind you - it's gotten worse), those of us called the radical fringe by the Clinton supporters want very mainstream things (for every American) - healthcare, living wage for an honest day's work - enough for an affordable mortgage, some free time, and retirement, a real safety net for those in need, safe water to drink and air to breathe, affordable education, application of public funds for the public good (instead of pentagon folly which makes our lives MORE dangerous), an honest tax structure, and some sort of even-handed justice system. These things are not fringe, and in fact are part of the system in every other developed country. Yet we have people here calling themselves liberal who believe these mundane necessities to be radical. Enough already.

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The Orwellian redefining of the meaning of the words "centrist" and "moderate" [View all] Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 OP

Nicely stated. 99Forever Jan 2016 #1

We're taking our Party Back - to the Left where it belongs Ferd Berfel Jan 2016 #2

When a Democratic policitican descrbes him/herself that way, I think "Republican." CharlotteVale Jan 2016 #3

Those now called "extreme" by the Republicans and DINOs really want very reasonable things Doctor_J Jan 2016 #4

What's more, they tell us we can't have these things, that most of the developed world already has. reformist2 Jan 2016 #7

considering that many of the things that are now called "fringe leftist" Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #8

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jan 2016 #5

The Clintons were the Dems (third) way of coping with Reaganism. Dems need togo back to their roots. reformist2 Jan 2016 #6

+100 Armstead Jan 2016 #20

Agree azmom Jan 2016 #26

No the Clntons was the RW nutz attempt to corrupt and subvert our party. I has been successfull and Vincardog Jan 2016 #27

Word meanings change over time to the point where they make no sense. valerief Jan 2016 #9

"Hope you don't mind I stole for my sig line" - no problem - I took Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #31

How About "Sellout" Yallow Jan 2016 #10

I think I am a liberal treestar Jan 2016 #11

OKEE DOKEE! Phlem Jan 2016 #13

On what issues and to what extent? That's always the difficult part Armstead Jan 2016 #25

well said Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #33

Right On. Agony Jan 2016 #34

K&R! Thank you for this excellent post. Phlem Jan 2016 #12

Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice. Thomas Paine Tierra_y_Libertad Jan 2016 #14

I love that. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #18

There's a saying in Arizona, I think Proserpina Jan 2016 #15

K&R Very welll said. nt Live and Learn Jan 2016 #16

In the Fascist States of America PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #17

but we know from endless examples that pure capitalism and pure socialism Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #19

Please cite an example of PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #21

there have been attempts at pure socialism in almost all the Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #22

Native americans PowerToThePeople Jan 2016 #23

In Europe and Asia they just traded one Elite for another Proserpina Jan 2016 #24

After hunting the largest animals to extinction. Which animals the wooly mamoth? What about Bison? Vincardog Jan 2016 #29

In America, "Centrist/Moderate" means "Status Quo." [n/t] Maedhros Jan 2016 #28

I could not agree more. nt mhatrw Jan 2016 #30

thanks Douglas Carpenter Jan 2016 #32