The Orwellian redefining of the meaning of the words "centrist" and "moderate"

[Douglas Carpenter]

22. there have been attempts at pure socialism in almost all the

Leninist states of Eastern Europe as well as a number of other places. As we know they all turned into totalitarian and impoverished societies with fewer rights for working class people than in the more advanced primarily capitalist first world societies.

If your saying that socialism has never really been tried - taking on a more pure definition of socialism - that is kind of like saying Christianity has never been tried - so we don't know if it works or not. At the very least we can say attempts at overwhelmingly collectivist societies where capitalism had been largely eradicated have been tried and have failed miserably.

I agree with Senator Sanders that we should look to Scandinavia for examples of what has been tried and what works. We don't need to copy Sweden or Denmark. But we can examine social-democracies of different varieties particularly the Scandinavian model to figure out what would be adaptable and what would work in America. That is pretty much Bernie's point of view and I strongly subscribe to it.