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Celerity

(51,742 posts)
34. meh
Tue May 14, 2019, 02:29 PM
May 2019

Is it fair that people my age (23) and younger are looking at 100K, 150K, 250K or more to simply get a a masters or PhD (hell even a bachelors in many cases) when many boomers and before paid fuckall in tuition in comparison?

Was it fair to force insurance companies to insure pre-existing conditions under the ACA when millions of people died before the ACA forced coverage?

Is it fair to retro-actively overturn all marijuana convictions and free the prisoners when so many before had to spend decades in prison (in some cases) back when there were still insanely draconian drug laws?



Why the hell would I begrudge human-empowerment, relief and freedom to thrive for the bottom 99% in our nation???? My family has spent silly money on the American part of my tertiary education and we support this debt relief 100% even though we do not directly benefit from it. A nation of debt slaves is a fucked up nation, and I do not want to live in a fucked up nation.

Some much wrong with the stance you take.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Joe Biden

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Or pull in people who might otherwise not vote. zipplewrath May 2019 #1
I think she has broad appeal. PassingFair May 2019 #2
K&R for visibility. nt tblue37 May 2019 #3
She has a lot of winning issues. HopeAgain May 2019 #4
I used to hear that school marm garbage about Hillary, too Ohiogal May 2019 #27
It will be used as a weapon against "socialist" policies that Trump Doodley May 2019 #5
What about the Socialist policy of paying farmers billions watoos May 2019 #7
Touche' Ferrets are Cool May 2019 #10
Trump supporters don't care when he does something Doodley May 2019 #21
so will Biden's call for free university tuition Celerity May 2019 #26
I support the general idea, but I think calling it 'free' is a stupid framing ... mr_lebowski May 2019 #53
It is only no tuition at public universities, not private Celerity May 2019 #55
Well, I'm 72, so my debt is long gone patphil May 2019 #6
can't remember where - just saw a news story about people that age STILL with student debt EveHammond13 May 2019 #11
Seniors owe billions in student loan debt: "This will follow me to the grave" Celerity May 2019 #28
yes EveHammond13 May 2019 #50
We worked hard and put two children through college Pobeka May 2019 #8
what if one of your kids wants to marry someone who has massive student debt EveHammond13 May 2019 #12
Yes, but that's not relevant to the question of fairness n/t Pobeka May 2019 #23
so because that student had a single working-class mom and had to take out loans EveHammond13 May 2019 #25
You are misreading my point Pobeka May 2019 #30
YOU & many others did the sensible things in this situation. LenaBaby61 May 2019 #48
A fair complaint lostnfound May 2019 #13
Ugh. kimmylavin May 2019 #15
+1000. nt ecstatic May 2019 #17
Agree nt Quixote1818 May 2019 #19
I think being progressive also includes a realization/application of fairness. Pobeka May 2019 #22
Not only that, but the poster wants the kids to suffer Mariana May 2019 #45
So fuck everybody who didn't have parents like you then, right? Maru Kitteh May 2019 #18
Right?! My parents didn't help me with college at all, and my sister-in-law is a teacher who has Luciferous May 2019 #44
That's exactly what the poster seems to be saying. Mariana May 2019 #46
Does that mean you wouldn't vote for Warren if she's the nominee? bigbrother05 May 2019 #33
NO WAY. I'll vote for the Dem nominee, regardless of who it is!!! Pobeka May 2019 #35
meh Celerity May 2019 #34
College affordability is a huge problem. Pobeka May 2019 #36
Do you oppose Biden's plan for 4 years free public university tuition as well? Celerity May 2019 #40
I haven't seen the details of his plan, so I can't answer. Pobeka May 2019 #41
inflation-adjusted tuition and fees have increased 600% roughly since 1965 Celerity May 2019 #43
The catch is... Blue_playwright May 2019 #37
I agree 100% n/t Pobeka May 2019 #38
I don't trust people like your buddy to vote RhodeIslandOne May 2019 #9
Good point. Spent last weekend with a house Laura PourMeADrink May 2019 #14
Hell, I was putting lump sum payments on my student loans... ecstatic May 2019 #16
It's not the original debt, but interest and fees and added costs More_Cowbell May 2019 #20
we must give relief to students who were victims of predatory lenders. period. EveHammond13 May 2019 #24
Aaaannnnddd right on cue not fooled May 2019 #31
My right wing sibling was aghast Ohiogal May 2019 #29
Typical selfish right wing mindset Gregory Peccary May 2019 #32
They're oblivious to the scourge of predatory lending. VOX May 2019 #39
Older Americans are supporting kids More_Cowbell May 2019 #54
Curious, what was his degree in? cwydro May 2019 #42
ugh Skittles May 2019 #47
Nor could I OhioChick May 2019 #52
Student debt was a big winning issue for Beto on Texas college campuses. dalton99a May 2019 #49
And what of those who have paid debt off already? And can this be done AND the forgiveness emmaverybo May 2019 #51
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