Democratic Primaries

LincolnRossiter

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2. I'm a supporter and I certainly hoped for a steadier performance from him.

Thu Aug 1, 2019, 08:06 AM

Aug 2019

It was an improvement. Maybe all (or most) of the rust will be off come September. It doesn't help when the moderators allow and encourage a sustained dogpile about issues (1970s bussing again, for real???) that have jack shit to do with beating Donald Trump or putting this country back on the right track.

Hopefully a smaller stage and more effective moderation with give us something substantive to talk about after September's debate. In the age of Trump, I'm a little sick of our petty, venal, polipop media latching on to dumb shit.

In the meantime Biden will still lead the polls and still raise millions and people will forget that he had to spend all night parrying cheapshots aimed more at his and Obama's record than the snarling clown in the Oval Office.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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I'm not the only one to see Biden as 'weak, fumbling' [View all] bloom Aug 2019 OP

Biden's staffers should work with him on slowing down. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #1

Biden's staffers should work with him to help him retire Perseus Aug 2019 #76

Come on now. That's just mean and he might be our nominee. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #78

I will vote for Biden as well if he is the nominee but I think we have better candidates Perseus Aug 2019 #90

Gotcha. I just want Trump out and not to weaken any Dem too much. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #91

someone in the lead is not going to "step aside" treestar Aug 2019 #104

I completely agree... Locrian Aug 2019 #132

Michael Moore makes no sense!! He's as divisive as they come Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #100

Moore MFM008 Aug 2019 #134

Yes thats why i dont put any stock in his opinion onetexan Aug 2019 #145

Trump couldn't string together two coherent sentences John Fante Aug 2019 #136

My one concern with Biden TheRealNorth Aug 2019 #139

I'm a supporter and I certainly hoped for a steadier performance from him. LincolnRossiter Aug 2019 #2

I agree metroins Aug 2019 #7

If he does that he'd be accused of milking tragedy Otto Lidenbrock Aug 2019 #36

Fending off attacks by Di Blasio, Booker, Harris, Castro tends to oasis Aug 2019 #19

He did "better". I wouldn't say "fine". wysimdnwyg Aug 2019 #25

A one-on-one debate against Trump will be quite different. oasis Aug 2019 #29

I certainly hope so wysimdnwyg Aug 2019 #33

As President, Biden will have scores of competent advisers and oasis Aug 2019 #39

Well done...Me too, I will vote for Bozo the Clown if he is the Democratic nominee Perseus Aug 2019 #83

Just don't agree with you.... busterbrown Aug 2019 #87

"His hate, lies and general ugliness..appealed to his supporters" wysimdnwyg Aug 2019 #99

Yes indeed he was in command. Obviously an enviable position by most as was on full display Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #105

+1 Lulu KC Aug 2019 #64

Ahhh! A voice of sanity Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #102

ditto elleng Aug 2019 #106

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #3

I think his work looks a bit better than what Harris seems to have done. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #9

don't kid yourself. bigtree Aug 2019 #18

Don't kid yourself. Cha Aug 2019 #56

The squinting by Joe Biden was probably the lights, I have that problem also katmondoo Aug 2019 #94

Thanks charlyvi Aug 2019 #131

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Oh BULL.. you have no idea what you're Cha Aug 2019 #23

You know, it's possible to defend your candidate without denying what is visibly true. Demit Aug 2019 #40

All you do is insult. Cha Aug 2019 #46

I make observations. You don't like them. Demit Aug 2019 #52

yeah, I see what other peeps think of Cha Aug 2019 #53

+1 mtnsnake Aug 2019 #89

I wouldn't call what you make "observations." More like interpretations. ancianita Aug 2019 #107

Post removed Post removed Aug 2019 #118

"Tight as a drum," "incredibly fake white shade is vanity," "he did them out of vanity" is ancianita Aug 2019 #126

He's not the only elderly man in this crowd to have had had their teeth veneered. ehrnst Aug 2019 #128

Observations unsupported by any objective evidence are simply called opinions. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #148

It sounds like you don't think that's appropriate behavior. JudyM Aug 2019 #129

+10000 Celerity Aug 2019 #92

One wonders what you would have said about our candidate in 1932. George II Aug 2019 #124

Hrs going to be the nominee so I hope you get used to it. Loki Liesmith Aug 2019 #30

Don't count your chickens...you know the rest. nt zackymilly Aug 2019 #82

What a creative little bumper sticker people rely on. LanternWaste Aug 2019 #149

Here's another one: Don't put all your eggs...you know that one too. n/t zackymilly Aug 2019 #151

That's your criticism of his candidacy? Criticizing his appearance? Better broadcast your assessment emmaverybo Aug 2019 #41

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OMG! And I'll bet some of them have lost weight! Styled their hair! nolabear Aug 2019 #43

No, that's what you're doing. Demit Aug 2019 #66

You go ahead and wonder why. I never doubted that Joan Baez and David Harris were sincerely emmaverybo Aug 2019 #123

Well that lays it out nicely. Autumn Aug 2019 #44

. Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2019 #75

he's not the only one treestar Aug 2019 #101

No, I wouldn't. Because I'd see that as him being comfortable in his own skin. Demit Aug 2019 #110

And your point in reference to the bigger picture of defeating the dotard is?? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #127

Not a "nice smear" of Biden. Cha Aug 2019 #38

Joe's no matinee idol, I'm so disappointed. oasis Aug 2019 #50

Yeah.. good thing I wasn't basing my Cha Aug 2019 #51

No, it isn't... and this OP will not change anyone's thinking with this kind of shallow approach Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #108

Wow, what a shitty thing to say. n/t demmiblue Aug 2019 #48

This message was self-deleted by its author bigtree Aug 2019 #62

If we're going there, Lulu KC Aug 2019 #67

The old adage is true Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #88

so he was just angry then? bigtree Aug 2019 #120

Posted from twitter without comment NYMinute Aug 2019 #97

It's also a professional makeup job, in a studio w/pro lighting, a pro camera w/post-processing ... mr_lebowski Aug 2019 #119

Is this what we look for in a candidate? Who cares what he looks like? George II Aug 2019 #109

From the get-go, his "kid" comment only served to highlight his age. elocs Aug 2019 #4

Yes - good point. nt bloom Aug 2019 #6

No it isn't. and you're not a very Cha Aug 2019 #60

I took it as a joke metroins Aug 2019 #10

It is an innocent term long used with no connotation, just like "you guys" is used regionally hlthe2b Aug 2019 #12

He often uses self-effacing humor. He's certainly bright enough to know his friendly kidding, emmaverybo Aug 2019 #45

Or it highlights treestar Aug 2019 #14

How does "Go easy on me" highlight his experience? Demit Aug 2019 #20

Oh Demit.. spin it as bad as you can.. Cha Aug 2019 #57

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Demit.. all you have are "lazy" insults. Cha Aug 2019 #85

Indeed! Insults do not move the dial! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #114

Thanks, Thekaspervote! Cha Aug 2019 #156

That poster has left the building.... revmclaren Aug 2019 #152

A tribute - Scurrilous Aug 2019 #155

.. Cha Aug 2019 #158

... Scurrilous Aug 2019 #159

.. Cha Aug 2019 #157

Of course treestar Aug 2019 #81

You think he's 100% serious about that? treestar Aug 2019 #77

Above you said his remark highlights his experience. Demit Aug 2019 #103

Wow! Your lighthearted meter is obviously broken this morning...sorry! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #115

Would you like a snack for the trip home? lapucelle Aug 2019 #147

So What? No one is trying to hide Cha Aug 2019 #58

You use the word age like it's a bad thing Lulu KC Aug 2019 #65

I'm glad he didn't say "whipper snapper". nt zackymilly Aug 2019 #86

The kid comment as per harris words was not one of disrespect. So why do you need to be upset? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #111

What a horrible statement. Void of thought. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #5

+1 Ugly damned ageism again. Trump will surely (gladly) pick up the descriptor, though hlthe2b Aug 2019 #8

It's also directed at some of the most respected... SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #11

You've got to be kidding treestar Aug 2019 #13

Agree the "frail old man" spin isn't working. But just to clarify, Hortensis Aug 2019 #31

haha thanks treestar Aug 2019 #98

Others seeing him as fumbling bloom Aug 2019 #15

Same column gives extravagant praise to K. G. it is nothing but an ill-conceived hit piece. NT emmaverybo Aug 2019 #47

It's just a stupid hit job. Cha Aug 2019 #63

Yea ok Watchfoxheadexplodes Aug 2019 #16

I was disappointed . It's just my opinion I know & he is still leading polls after debate We need to lunasun Aug 2019 #21

Can someone explain this to me? I missed the debates and have no idea what this is about. Tipperary Aug 2019 #61

You missed nothing Lulu KC Aug 2019 #69

Lol, thanks. Tipperary Aug 2019 #96

Here lunasun Aug 2019 #137

one thing has been established.... quickesst Aug 2019 #22

Yeah.. Cha Aug 2019 #27

people are actually making fun.... quickesst Aug 2019 #70

Agree! So petty Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #116

Yes. It's like " how low will they go?" I don't think we have seen the bottom yet. emmaverybo Aug 2019 #154

Who cares about Aronoff? Voters like him for more than debate soundbites or one-issue pique. Princetonian Aug 2019 #24

I always look at previous articles and opinion pieces by the authors OKNancy Aug 2019 #26

+1,000,000 highplainsdem Aug 2019 #34

I do the same. Important to know these op-Ed writers biases. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #140

Exactly. Tarheel_Dem Aug 2019 #153

Probably not Progressive dog Aug 2019 #28

Weak, fumbling, failed , sounds like puke adjectives. pwb Aug 2019 #32

Well, some of us are. BannonsLiver Aug 2019 #122

Yep, echoes Trump's "Sleepy Joe" attack. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #141

Joe Biden is the most electable candidate that the Democratic Party has available Gothmog Aug 2019 #35

I'm voting for ANY democrat. apcalc Aug 2019 #37

Biden is our most qualified candidate with huge charisma. democratisphere Aug 2019 #42

+1000 emmaverybo Aug 2019 #49

I say BS. democratisphere Aug 2019 #55

He did fine awesomerwb1 Aug 2019 #59

let's go Joe ! stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #71

You're not the only one Vegas Roller Aug 2019 #72

Wellll.... Peacetrain Aug 2019 #73

I found a number of his answers ending not smoothly. brooklynite Aug 2019 #74

He needs on work on that. He often awkwardly stops speaking. Funtatlaguy Aug 2019 #80

He stopped speaking when his time was up. emulatorloo Aug 2019 #142

Polls show that it's not about what Aronoff sees, whether we agree or disagree with her. Polls show ancianita Aug 2019 #79

Biden is dangerous AverageJoe Aug 2019 #84

I agree. Trump has nothing to lose. Biden will be too polite. I think Harris can handle Trump. nt zackymilly Aug 2019 #93

Biden was and will continue to be polite to other Dems...not dotard..no way! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #117

I agree... Skya Rhen Aug 2019 #150

Yes. The beauty about the internet is that you can generally find someone to agree with you. Drunken Irishman Aug 2019 #95

Kate Aronoff writes for The Intercept flamingdem Aug 2019 #112

EVERY candidate's climate proposals are "hodge-podge" - not a single one has a comprehensive... George II Aug 2019 #113

Until Biden became VP, he was never considered presidential material. Not even remotely. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #121

. SouthernProgressive Aug 2019 #125

What was with the "Go to Joe 30330" in his closing statement? jalan48 Aug 2019 #130

That's the Biden campaign's text acct: 303-30 emulatorloo Aug 2019 #143

I would Have Agreed With This Narrative Until About 5 Minutes Ago. jayfish Aug 2019 #133

My biggest Biden fear is that he'd wither in the debate with Trump. thesquanderer Aug 2019 #135

I think Joe has it down in so far as what has to happen. Wash. state Desk Jet Aug 2019 #138

When I think about a Biden-Trump general election match up, DeminPennswoods Aug 2019 #144

I Support Sanders But Know That Warren Would Be Rock-Solid On Climate, Too corbettkroehler Aug 2019 #146