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Perseus

(4,341 posts)
50. I don't have a favourite at this time, I am trying hard to do a lot of analysis
Sat Aug 24, 2019, 12:40 PM
Aug 2019

I do have my least favourites, and Biden is on that list.

One thing I can tell you is that Biden will not beat the creature, Biden continually shoots himself on the foot, he lacks progressive ideas and will be vilified as "more of the same". I will vote for him if he becomes the nominee, but the goal has to be greater than just getting rid of trump and winning the senate, we need someone who can fix the country, who can reverse all the wrongdoing republicans have done during these three years, and I don't see Biden being able to do that.

At this time I find that Sanders has what it takes to ridicule the creature during debates, Sanders doesn't allow people to bully him, Warren has a similar agenda as Sanders, and she too will put Pence on his place. Although I won't consider those two my favourites, I find that their actions up to now deserve more consideration than Biden who has said very little constructive and has made many gaffs.

He called the creature "Mr. President" four times in a very short time during one of the debates, to me that is pandering to the right, that will not win him any votes from Democrats. As I have said before, one of Biden's weaknesses is that he wants to be liked by all, he thinks "Mitch", as he calls him, is his friend and there could be nothing further from the truth.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for:
Undecided
Biden's latest Hideous Gaffe ought to put him out of the race. Voltaire2 Aug 2019 #1
I agree,it's the reason I had to say something. saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #4
desperate cries from those who won't touch Biden's chances are kind of sad. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #14
It's still early for calls of desperation. imo saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #15
I call it as I see it... desperation is palpable. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #26
I call it as I see it too, and he/she who has the better view may be seeing it clearer? Perseus Aug 2019 #66
The GOP want EW clearly... not Biden...she has run on policy that Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #69
Things to consider, I will do some research to find out what her eligibility is in those states Perseus Aug 2019 #73
If Clinton had beaten Trump with an Electoral College victory but lost the popular vote, elocs Aug 2019 #83
If Hillary had won because of the Electoral College republicans would b working hard to eliminate it Perseus Aug 2019 #90
Republicans know full well that the electoral college is their only chance. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #92
Get used to it because I doubt the EC is going anywhere soon. elocs Aug 2019 #94
Agreed customerserviceguy Aug 2019 #104
Thanks for the link, well worth reading saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #85
The Rust Belt myth lives on. A misunderstanding of what happened in 2016 plays a big role. Garrett78 Aug 2019 #89
We'll see the next few polls. treestar Aug 2019 #30
Really, Butterflylady Aug 2019 #43
If Biden"s so-called gaffes are his biggest problem, then he's an ideal candidate. There is nothing Doodley Aug 2019 #87
+1 -K&R onetexan Aug 2019 #97
Whatever... Joe941 Aug 2019 #95
Lol. yardwork Aug 2019 #103
I cringed when I read that Sec of State Clinton said that. pangaia Aug 2019 #2
Why? Butterflylady Aug 2019 #47
"unusual rhetorical detours" Quite the turn there Autumn Aug 2019 #3
Nice catch Autumn saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #5
I catch a lot of things. Like the "over 40 kids shot at Kent State on a beautiful lawn". Autumn Aug 2019 #10
No kidding, and people are doing some serious gymnastics trying to explain that away. cwydro Aug 2019 #17
I watched this happen with my Father. I wonder if this is why Obama Autumn Aug 2019 #21
Well, he'd certainly be in a position to know. cwydro Aug 2019 #22
I finally watched the entire video. cwydro Aug 2019 #28
The apologists say the comments about women are a form of "gallantry" bluewater Aug 2019 #35
Yeah, I found that bizarre. cwydro Aug 2019 #42
I share this memory with you. saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #38
I was only a child, and I remember it well. cwydro Aug 2019 #45
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I disagree...she will not win the states we need...the rust belt Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #6
Agree, I like EW, but her poll numbers with the AA voting block are DISMAL! Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #9
Maybe certain posters who'd like to hold her down have pointed that out again and again True Dough Aug 2019 #27
No, but I consider it unlikely...and we still won't win the general. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #39
No one is saying those number won't change. Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #72
IMO that is why you can't cut out Harris yet. She will probably come in second to Biden in SC... brush Aug 2019 #67
Biden speaking in NH: "I want to be clear. I'm not going nuts." bluewater Aug 2019 #7
I watched the same thing with my Father. I know, it took two years in Dad's case. Autumn Aug 2019 #13
Comments are brutal, "Bow out, dementia, call off his campaign" those are the kinder ones n/t Baclava Aug 2019 #19
I hadn't seen this. cwydro Aug 2019 #20
Apologists will say it's due to being a former stutterer. bluewater Aug 2019 #23
Which is outright drivel True Dough Aug 2019 #29
No Biden supporters are not seeking "sympathy " votes ..that's lame Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #74
To the first 5 posters... ya'll just don't know when to let it go Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #8
The fear is that Biden could really blow the general election bluewater Aug 2019 #11
So, how's all that bashing workin' for ya? Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #25
Matt Viser is a respected political reporter at the Washington Post bluewater Aug 2019 #31
I'm not saying that isn't what he said, I'm saying that your negative twist on it is what's wrong Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #59
I live in Mass Green Line Aug 2019 #32
Its funny how that works Perseus Aug 2019 #37
Here's another guardian article that shows why he's in the lead Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #57
Yes, I had read it Perseus Aug 2019 #77
I'm trying to stick just to facts and not interject opinion and if I do I say so Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #80
This is not bashing, sorry you feel that way, these are facts Perseus Aug 2019 #91
I'm in a very blue area of Mass Green Line Aug 2019 #86
I live in Mass, and all the Democrats I know JenniferJuniper Aug 2019 #51
Odd how a discussion about Biden's actual words and behavior is considered bashing and Autumn Aug 2019 #70
Not hear mammmm.. dealing in just facts Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #75
Oh yes. What about Warren? What about Pete? What about Steyer. Autumn Aug 2019 #81
Oklahoma, solid red saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #107
It just makes me mad. I like Elizabeth Warren as a Senator not as president...she comes from Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #12
Senator Warren saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #16
She has gone to far...and I doubt she can tweak her message...and we still lose Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #24
All of your concerns are misplaced Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #36
We would and with a GOP governor,we can't count on getting it back. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #40
Also wrong Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #52
Two words...Scott Brown. She would have to resign her Senate seat... Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #63
A person who can't win the states we need is no the best candidate no matter Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #41
Repeating fact-challenged assertions does not make them true Bradshaw3 Aug 2019 #49
Then you should look at your opinion based comment #33. It's your opinion not fact Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #78
Democrats alone won't win the general...always the mistake who claim every year that Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #44
Certainly Warren is that risk empedocles Aug 2019 #18
I don't have a favourite at this time, I am trying hard to do a lot of analysis Perseus Aug 2019 #50
I speak only for myself. saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #76
Some people don't understand analogy treestar Aug 2019 #33
Here is a very good article from the Guardian about Biden Perseus Aug 2019 #34
That you consider this a 'good' article says it all...opinion with little merit. Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #46
I have always like Biden as a person, I am not a fanatic Perseus Aug 2019 #71
Excellent article, Perseus mtnsnake Aug 2019 #93
does this article mention how Warren can win the black vote ? JI7 Aug 2019 #48
+1000 the the AA women I campaign with and know pretty well are Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #56
my question was about whether the article mentioned how Warren can win the black vote JI7 Aug 2019 #60
I will say it...she can't and won't... I could see Harris winning it but not Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #62
i was asking if the article mentioned how she could do it JI7 Aug 2019 #65
Anyone, black or white, who doesn't vote for whomever our candidate is - is a fool. cwydro Aug 2019 #98
Best qualified? How? She may be, to you and supporters, the candidate with the best policy emmaverybo Aug 2019 #53
+1000...and all her gift are useless if she loses a general which I believe she would Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #58
Great well thought out post!! Thx emmaverybo Thekaspervote Aug 2019 #96
You can't leave out Harris and Buttigieg. They have enough money and support to last. brush Aug 2019 #54
Be prepared for anti-Biden ads targeting the AA community in the general election... 4139 Aug 2019 #55
That will lose votes for candidates who run such ads in the primary ...in the Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #61
I said be prepared for that in the "general election" if Biden is the nominee 4139 Aug 2019 #64
I gave you the general too...I said with Trump the racist such ads wouldn't work...and Demsrule86 Aug 2019 #68
At first I was kind of horrified by Biden's comment, CrispyQ Aug 2019 #79
Biden does have more experience. saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #82
Much ado about nothing. Same media who smeared Senator Obama now attacking his brother VP Joe. Princetonian Aug 2019 #84
Agreed. Unfortunate to see our friends her joining in those attacks. Doodley Aug 2019 #88
much... myohmy2 Aug 2019 #99
Biden's singular advantage , He was never a republican ? stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #101
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Check Biden's voting record saidsimplesimon Aug 2019 #105
I don't need to Check Biden's voting record . stonecutter357 Aug 2019 #106
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