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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
Democratic Primaries
In reply to the discussion: Why Warren can not win the presidency [View all]Garrett78
(10,721 posts)68. Partisans who don't like partisanship.
Last edited Sat Sep 28, 2019, 03:12 AM - Edit history (1)
While around four-in-10 voters say theyre independents, very few are actually swing voters. In fact, according to an analysis of voting patterns conducted by Michigan State University political scientist Corwin Smidt, those who identify as independents today are more stable in their support for one or the other party than were strong partisans back in the 1970s. According to Dan Hopkins, a professor of government at the University of Pennsylvania, independents who lean toward the Democrats are less likely to back GOP candidates than are weak Democrats.
https://www.thenation.com/article/what-everyone-gets-wrong-about-independent-voters/
I've posted that and other articles on this topic several times before. The other point that is made about "independents" is that they aren't as engaged in politics and are less likely to vote than the average party-affiliated voter.
Anyway, the larger point I keep making is that a popular post-2016 narrative about what happened and why is completely bogus. And that narrative seems to be the basis for this notion that only Joe Biden can win in 2020. Also, early hypothetical match-up polls are historically misleading. Just ask President Dukakis.
The primary focus must be on boosting turnout among POC, youth and white women in the suburbs. Not on flipping Trump voters or winning alleged swing voters who aren't actually swing voters.
If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided
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That person thinks that African Americans voters will vote for Trump if Warren is the nominee?!
demmiblue
Sep 2019
#1
It has been shown in polls and questionaires that male AA voters did in fact vote for
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#2
We aren't going to win a general unless we nominate candidates the electorate will support.
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#31
A-A men did not vote for Rump over Hillary. They only voted for her at lower rates than A-A women
Celerity
Sep 2019
#27
That is a very good point...I think Warren could win the popular vote but not the EC.
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#42
That's what I find so troublesome about the argument that Biden is the only person who can
Politicub
Sep 2019
#15
Only with the younger ones, he is locked in with 50yo plus A-A's. Harris is basically done (3% in
Celerity
Sep 2019
#29
Warren supporters often claim Biden should not be our nominee because of "the enthusiasm gap."
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#34
Enthusiasm is a real factor. It will remain a factor even if you plug your ears with your fingers
Politicub
Sep 2019
#47
Fair enough to all your points. A fair and well-made challenge to my post. I will add, and I speak
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#49
Thank you for sharing that anecdote with me! Yes, we share a common a common goal. I do
emmaverybo
Sep 2019
#57
Are you allowed to copy other people's posts from candidate groups to the wider Primaries forum?
highplainsdem
Sep 2019
#5
I see where they have copy and pasted it into two different forums/groups now. NT
TidalWave46
Sep 2019
#8
They probably didn't anticipate anyone doing anything this low re candidate groups.
highplainsdem
Sep 2019
#33
The OP isn't false, but is clearly in violation of the intent of creating individual candidate
highplainsdem
Sep 2019
#65
The OP of THIS thread is a grab of someone else's post from a candidate forum the author of this
highplainsdem
Sep 2019
#72
I can't support copying from a candidate forum, thus I will not respond anymore on this OP...
Demsrule86
Sep 2019
#32
People continue to mistake "independent" for "swing voter" or "middle of the road."
Garrett78
Sep 2019
#59