Winners and losers in the debate, winners Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Biden (mainly because Hunter was

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16. lol, revisionist much?

Clinton and Obama exchange insults as Democratic campaign debate gets personal

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/jan/22/hillaryclinton.uselections2008

The battle for the Democratic nomination became increasingly bitter last night as frontrunners Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama engaged in the most vicious exchanges yet seen in a televised debate.
The two traded personal attacks after a brief discussion of US economic woes. Obama said he had been working in the slums of Chicago while Clinton "was a corporate lawyer sitting on the board of WalMart". Clinton retaliated that Obama had represented a slum landlord.

Obama repeatedly claimed he had been a victim of a campaign of dishonest tactics by the Clinton campaign over the past month. The audience booed Clinton when she said Obama never gave a straight answer. Earlier Obama had gambled on a full-frontal challenge to the Democratic icon Bill Clinton, who has made a series of personal attacks on Obama on the campaign trail since December. Obama retaliated before the debate, describing the former president's behaviour as "troubling" and accusing him of distorting facts. Clinton's status as the most popular figure in the party makes any public attack risky, though less so than it would have been a few weeks ago. The former president's derogatory and often tetchy remarks have alienated and angered many senior Democrats previously loyal to him, particularly African Americans.

In an interview with ABC television, Obama said: "The former president, who I think all of us have a lot of regard for, has taken his advocacy on behalf of his wife to a level that I think is pretty troubling. He continues to make statements that are not supported by the facts ... This has become a habit, and one of the things that we're going to have to do is to directly confront Bill Clinton when he's making statements that are not factually accurate."

Clinton in December said Obama's lack of experience would make his presidency "a roll of the dice". A few days before the New Hampshire primary on January 8, he described Obama's early opposition to the Iraq war as a "fairytale", a derogatory remark that has caused the most offence, and at the weekend Clinton accused the Obama team of using strong-arm tactics in the Nevada primary. The deterioration in relations between the two camps follows a short-lived truce brokered last week after a damaging series of exchanges over race, including over the legacy of Martin Luther King.

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