Winners and losers in the debate, winners Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Biden (mainly because Hunter was

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24. I wish Biden (I know this will shock some people here too) had run in 2016

He would have crushed Rump.

I now it is for bullshit reasons (the slagging her off), but nonetheless we ran a staggeringly unpopular candidate in Hillary. Her unpopularity post run is unprecedented

Sometimes you just (no matter how unfair it is) cannot ram down a a very unpopular candidate into the US electorate's throat. My fellow students at LSE laughed at me when I alone (out of 30 plus people) said Rump would win. That was in September 2016, before the Comey skulduggery etc.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/243242/snapshot-hillary-clinton-favorable-rating-low.aspx

WASHINGTON, D.C. -- Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's favorability with U.S. adults is unchanged from last November -- remaining at a record low (36%).




These results, from a Sept. 4-12 Gallup poll, confirm that Clinton's image remains in a rut nearly two years after she lost the presidential contest in 2016. Her favorable rating is down seven percentage points from where it stood on the eve of the election.

Two key trends would suggest that Clinton should become more popular, not less, after the 2016 presidential election. The first is specific to Clinton. While opinions of Clinton have varied over her long time in the public limelight, she has tended to be quite popular when she is no longer seen as a purely political figure. When her husband, former President Bill Clinton, faced impeachment in 1998, for instance, Hillary Clinton's favorable rating rose to a record high of 67%. Clinton was also generally well-liked over the course of her 2009-2013 tenure as secretary of state.

By contrast, Clinton's favorable rating fell when she sought the presidency in 2008 and 2016, particularly after allegations about her improper handling of classified emails were revealed in summer 2015.