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crazytown

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25. Insider accounts say Obama did nothing to encourage Biden in 2015,

Wed Oct 16, 2019, 01:57 AM

Oct 2019

perhaps the opposite. In hindsight, I agree with you: trump would have made less progress in the midwest if Biden had been the candidate. The thing is, few VPs have ever been elected to what amounts to a third term. Nixon failed in 1960, Gore in 2000. Bush won in 1988, after Willie Horton, but that is the exception. At the conclusion of 8 years, people are looking for a patch of blue sky -'new and improved' - that American contradiction.

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Winners and losers in the debate, winners Buttigieg, Klobuchar and Biden (mainly because Hunter was [View all] Celerity Oct 2019 OP

Well, at least Buttigieg didn't show his fake outrage like Lindsey Graham dalton99a Oct 2019 #1

meh, toss ANY candidate into that cauldron (strong mayor, responsible for ALL that happens Celerity Oct 2019 #6

Your candidate, Mayor Pete, lost a lot of supporters from what I'm reading tonight liskddksil Oct 2019 #2

lol at 'social media' nt Celerity Oct 2019 #3

Receipts liskddksil Oct 2019 #5

yawn, and Beto will not be around for the November debate more than likely Celerity Oct 2019 #7

Pete is very skilled at kicking people in the shins and pleading for unity in the same answer BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #4

political reality often comes with sore shins nt Celerity Oct 2019 #8

And middling results nt BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #9

time will tell, don't hate the player, hate the game, Biden is a sure bet, Warren isn't Celerity Oct 2019 #12

So Pete is just a common politician? Jakes Progress Oct 2019 #38

Mean Pete made his debut tonight crazytown Oct 2019 #10

Obama without the charm BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #11

At his best, Obama appealed to ideals, to our better angels. crazytown Oct 2019 #14

lol, revisionist much? Celerity Oct 2019 #16

I remember that debate very clearly. crazytown Oct 2019 #20

I wish Biden (I know this will shock some people here too) had run in 2016 Celerity Oct 2019 #24

Insider accounts say Obama did nothing to encourage Biden in 2015, crazytown Oct 2019 #25

my wife & I were big O'Malley girls and never got to vote for him, as he dropped out before CA voted Celerity Oct 2019 #29

I agree LeftInTX Oct 2019 #28

The archetypal McKinsey consultant/hatchet man. dalton99a Oct 2019 #13

do you have 'concerns' about Chelsea Clinton's time at McKinsey too? Celerity Oct 2019 #18

I was only 11 and 12 years old in the 2008 campaign, but Obama (rightly so) was NOT all pixie dust Celerity Oct 2019 #15

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing PatSeg Oct 2019 #19

IF it was constitutional (it is not) the best possible slate for the world would be Barack and Pete Celerity Oct 2019 #23

"unicorns and rainbows"? crazytown Oct 2019 #34

Oh yes PatSeg Oct 2019 #37

I would like to see a woman on the ticket though PatSeg Oct 2019 #36

I generally agree. I am really trying hard to like Warren, but she just didn't do well tonight. unitedwethrive Oct 2019 #17

I have donated to Buttigieg (maxed out) Harris, Bullock, Biden (I know will shock some), Klobuchar Celerity Oct 2019 #21

When a bunch of other candidates are piling on, its tough. phleshdef Oct 2019 #22

Yup! If she supports m4a then make it clear what it will cost...she isn't doing that! Thekaspervote Oct 2019 #26

The dumb thing is its pretty obvious. Voters can figure it out pretty easy. Just come out with it. phleshdef Oct 2019 #27

It will drop medical costs Lordquinton Oct 2019 #30

Biden was a winner because even though he did poorly, someone else did worse? Lordquinton Oct 2019 #31

politics 101 Celerity Oct 2019 #32

There aren't enough doctors for everyone tirebiter Oct 2019 #33

I see Pete as having lost elias7 Oct 2019 #35