Democratic Primaries

MineralMan

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24. The 2020 general election will not be about the candidates, but about general directions.

Tue Jan 21, 2020, 01:01 PM

Jan 2020

That is always the case. The voters will decide, either through their votes or through their non-participation. Sadly, too many people do not participate in what is the binary choice we face in November. They aren't fans of either nominee, so they choose not to make the choice that will lead to one of the two candidates winning.

The irony is that the choice to abandon the responsibility often works to the detriment of those who make that choice. In the Primary process, one can support and vote for any of the people who run. Once that process is over, though, it becomes a binary choice which will result in one or another person moving into the White House. There is no third option. There really can't be in our system.

Spite voting or not voting just means you didn't participate in the choice, and will have to live with what others decide. It's that simple, but some people don't get that simple fact.

I hope we do better in 2020.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Senator Bernie Sanders is proud of his status as an Independent Senator [View all] MineralMan Jan 2020 OP

But what has he accomplished that he is proud of? getagrip_already Jan 2020 #1

That is not my concern. He is proud of being an Independent Senator. MineralMan Jan 2020 #2

disagree.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #4

And I don't picture Sanders as a fence mender PatSeg Jan 2020 #8

Sanders has never gotten more than 207,848 votes in an election. George II Jan 2020 #3

Well, Vermont is a sparsely populated state. MineralMan Jan 2020 #5

Correct. Reminds me of the inverse of that Frank Sinatra song, "New York, New York" George II Jan 2020 #6

I think Vermont would be a delightful place to live. MineralMan Jan 2020 #7

I live in mass and mostly agree with you.. getagrip_already Jan 2020 #9

That's a big reason why I wouldn't want to live there. I HATE guns, don't want to be around them. George II Jan 2020 #11

I don't hear about much gun violence in Vermont, though. MineralMan Jan 2020 #12

It's a very rural, very monolithic population.... getagrip_already Jan 2020 #13

Ah, Winter Gets to Us All. MineralMan Jan 2020 #15

again, the low population handmade34 Jan 2020 #36

It's okay, pretty in the summer but not a place I'd like to live. George II Jan 2020 #10

this is our song... handmade34 Jan 2020 #38

key word Independent handmade34 Jan 2020 #14

I'm not bashing Bernie anyway. MineralMan Jan 2020 #16

not a reference to you handmade34 Jan 2020 #37

Oh no. The party affiliation concerns. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #17

Nope. However, we do have a de facto two-party system here. MineralMan Jan 2020 #18

Bernie is demonstrating how one might be an independent and succeed in a de facto 2-part system aikoaiko Jan 2020 #19

Really, I don't think Bernie will become the Democratic nominee. MineralMan Jan 2020 #20

I tend to agree, but he is demonstrating how an independent can be involved and possibly win. aikoaiko Jan 2020 #21

Nothing prevents any candidate from being involved. MineralMan Jan 2020 #23

I like the graphic...but disagree. I am a Democrat, I vote Democratic...party affiliation is an Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #30

I know there are others who share your viewpoint on this, but I don't Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #22

The 2020 general election will not be about the candidates, but about general directions. MineralMan Jan 2020 #24

I couldn't agree on this more. n/t Tom Rinaldo Jan 2020 #25

Thanks. I'm all about outcomes when it comes to MineralMan Jan 2020 #26

It sends the message that Party is not good enough to support as a member IMHO. Sanders had Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #31

I'm good with Bernie as a Democrat or an I. It's his positions, views and ideas -- KPN Jan 2020 #27

I vote for Democrats period. I would vote for Sanders if he is in the general of course. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #32

So do I. The upside is Sanders runs as a Democrat. KPN Jan 2020 #39

And I would add that is what some who voted for Stein in 16 said...they don't care about party just Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #33

I vote for who I think is best. In all cases, that has been the Democrat KPN Jan 2020 #40

Vote D ...or we will lose elections...people won't always love their nominee but the alternative is Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #41

Preaching to the choir ... but I don't judge or KPN Jan 2020 #42

Here's the problem Quackers Jan 2020 #28

I agree. He needs to run Indie in Vermont. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #34

+1000 K&R Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #29

I agree, the Democratic primary is for the Party, not the country. apnu Jan 2020 #35

I am proud to be a member of the Democratic Party and I want to nominate a Democrat Gothmog Jan 2020 #43