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Demsrule86

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122. It shows...that Sanders environmental issues when it is convenient for him to do so...and

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 01:38 PM

Jan 2020

you know what that means... for the supposed champion of the little guy to try to send dangerous nuclear waste to a poor Texas community while his wife sat on the board and drew a paycheck is just plain wrong. This is not disputed. As for Nancy she is consistent...

Pelosi has supported the development of new technologies to reduce U.S. dependence upon foreign oil and remediate the adverse environmental effects of burning fossil fuels.[142] Pelosi has widely supported conservation programs and energy research appropriations. She has also voted to remove an amendment that would allow for oil and gas exploration in the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.[143][144]

Pelosi has blocked efforts to revive offshore oil drilling in protected areas, reasoning that offshore drilling could lead to an increase in dependence on fossil fuels.[145]

Also,without her support there would have been no Green deal pass the House.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Joe Biden

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Bernie Sanders to charter private jet to campaign in Iowa during impeachment [View all] Gothmog Jan 2020 OP

I thought he was just like me? dem4decades Jan 2020 #1

Is his dark money group footing the bill? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #2

I was wondering that too. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #3

Geez, nobody is talking about outlawing chartering private planes. thesquanderer Jan 2020 #4

Yep. David__77 Jan 2020 #10

Yep. From the same people too. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #14

Just when you thought you've heard everything, the Bernie bashing reaches a new low!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28

Sanders' work requires him to be in Washington DC as the junior senator from Vermont. George II Jan 2020 #16

Like any member of Congress running for president, he has multiple obligations. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2020 #19

Like any other Senator elected by his constituents, his JOB is in the Senate Chamber in DC. George II Jan 2020 #22

So he shouldn't try to campaign at the same time? Does this apply equally to all Senators? thesquanderer Jan 2020 #23

Yes and Yes. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #40

Does it apply to Nancy also? brutus smith Jan 2020 #51

What about Nancy? Bad optics for Sanders and what with Bloombergs Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #56

Nancy is visiting the Holacaust Memorial True Blue American Jan 2020 #67

I don't recall Nancy being a sponsor of the Green New Deal... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #76

So he should walk to see potential voters? brutus smith Jan 2020 #80

He doesn't need to see potential voter...he could use video as the person you support Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

Really? So it's OK for Pelosi because she's not as strong on the environment as Sanders and AOC? DanTex Jan 2020 #84

Sierra Blanca. F-35. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #86

What's that? You're not seriously arguing that Bernie and Warren don't have the strongest DanTex Jan 2020 #88

I don't know about Warren. Finance is her strong suit...but I think she is Green...Sanders on the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #95

What does a 90s dispute about where to put nuclear waste have to do with the Green New Deal? DanTex Jan 2020 #100

It is about dumping nuclear waste on a poor Texas Hispanic area...it is wrong period and certainly Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #103

Anyone who has to ask "what's that" doesn't know the record. lapucelle Jan 2020 #128

And the relevance is? DanTex Jan 2020 #131

Anyone who admits that they don't know facts and details and who also doesn't grasp the relevance lapucelle Jan 2020 #142

Thank You, lapucelle.. Shine the LIGHT! Cha Jan 2020 #147

I don't know how anyone could argue with THIS. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #176

No, She is speaker and has to have security and be places for her job...He on the other hand does Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #91

Then why bring up the Green New Deal? DanTex Jan 2020 #92

He was a sponsor and talked the talk...now let him walk the walk. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #105

Oh, I get it. It's better to be soft on the environment and fly chartered planes than DanTex Jan 2020 #110

Oh and Pelosi is a strong environmental advocate and the difference between her and Sanders is she Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #93

She is, but not as strong as Sanders and AOC. DanTex Jan 2020 #94

She is stronger...she actually passes legislation in the House and the Senate. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #104

She's the speaker of the house, so obviously she has more power. DanTex Jan 2020 #108

She passed legislation before she was the speaker...what has he actually accomplished? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #112

She sponsored environmental legislation that passed? I didn't know that. DanTex Jan 2020 #118

Pelosi didn't seek to dump nuclear waste on a poor Texas communty...her husband wansn't Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #119

So does that mean she didn't sponsor environmental legislation that passed? DanTex Jan 2020 #120

It shows...that Sanders environmental issues when it is convenient for him to do so...and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #122

Come on. Sanders has been the most consistent on the environment of all the candidates. DanTex Jan 2020 #130

That is your opinion...but Trump is trying to revive the Nuclear thing so it could still happen...I Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #133

Trump is also trying to bring up the Hunter Biden Ukraine thing. DanTex Jan 2020 #134

The difference is Sandersw was involved in the nuclear waste dumping on a brown community and his Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #138

It's the same level of nonsense. DanTex Jan 2020 #140

It is completely not nonsense...Bernie wanted to and voted to send nuclear waste to a small Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #152

It is total nonsense and only people who already hate Bernie see it the way you see it. DanTex Jan 2020 #153

It is not vague...it is in the tax return posted on Daily KOS. Mrs. Sanders was on the board and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #159

Yes, and Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma and getting paid for it. Who cares? DanTex Jan 2020 #161

LOL. I did some googling. Guess who voted for the compact. Joe Biden!!!!! DanTex Jan 2020 #162

many of them voted for it...but it was Sander's baby as hit affected Vermont...and was Jill biden Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #163

In the future, before throwing out smears, you should check that your guy didn't vote the same. DanTex Jan 2020 #164

Oh, no. Not back to the "hater" thing. Too dramatic. Some folks really dislike Bernie, true, usually emmaverybo Feb 2020 #178

"Hater" is more concise than "really disliker". DanTex Feb 2020 #184

It's the language of his candidacy, which represents an attitude I find divisive. I don't know how emmaverybo Feb 2020 #185

The difference is she's not being a hypocrite. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #144

You're Wrong, dantex.. Nancy is every bit as Strong Cha Jan 2020 #149

For example, she doesn't support the Green New Deal. DanTex Jan 2020 #154

Nancy Supports Environmental Polices that Cha Jan 2020 #157

That's all fine. DanTex Jan 2020 #158

Nancy's a UNITER.. and Stronger! Cha Jan 2020 #160

GND is a moot point. It has zero chances of being enacted as is. Pelosi supports sound do-able emmaverybo Feb 2020 #179

Is Speaker Pelosi campaigning for POTUS as "THE environmental candidate?" (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #166

Biden has campaigned for president as a sitting Senator TheFarseer Jan 2020 #85

Certainly, He didn't leave a Senate impeachment trial to run off and campaign. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #106

Let's talk about the respective histories of being unemployed, shall we? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #114

Was there a threat to democracy in the White House under impeachment then? emmaverybo Feb 2020 #180

They know that, but it's BERNIE, so he's subjected to standards that don't apply to other candidates InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #29

Poor beleaguered baby. Don't make a guy out to lead a revolution sound so sensitive to emmaverybo Feb 2020 #181

And even if you believe that Sanders has no "work requirement" that should take him out of DC... thesquanderer Jan 2020 #58

Actually...lots of Green deal folks have had much to say on that subject. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #78

Bingo! secondwind Jan 2020 #55

It ain't working class transpo Wawannabe Jan 2020 #121

Of course he's not working class. He doesn't claim to be. Senators make $174k, + his book sales, thesquanderer Jan 2020 #123

Claims Wawannabe Jan 2020 #126

He became mayor of Burlington VT at about the age of 40. thesquanderer Jan 2020 #129

I'm with you. I think it's the smart thing to do. Scotch-Irish Jan 2020 #127

I don't have any druthers about Bernie flying around, I just hope he stays safe. abqtommy Jan 2020 #5

I wonder if this one has that fancy menu like his R B Garr Jan 2020 #6

I am also wondering about this Gothmog Feb 2020 #175

A rather weak criticism TiberiusB Jan 2020 #7

Good. The man takes his Senate duty seriously, I hope that Liz will hire a private jet too. The Autumn Jan 2020 #8

"The man takes his Senate duty seriously"? The man missed more than 190 consecutive votes.... George II Jan 2020 #17

. Autumn Jan 2020 #62

I don't think it's funny, I think it's sad. That's about $87,000 paid out for no work. George II Jan 2020 #66

You're wasting your time on me George. Autumn Jan 2020 #68

Just pointing out that the person you said took his Senate duty seriously didn't do it for 6 months. George II Jan 2020 #69

You ought to spend your time pointing out what sleazy Republicans are doing. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #70

I do, but unfortunately I feel compelled to spend some of my time correcting the lies... George II Jan 2020 #71

. Autumn Jan 2020 #72

That's a reasonable response that would apply to ANY candidate, which tells you it must be ridiculed InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #30

no thats not it.. samnsara Jan 2020 #53

She won't. But if she did I bet she would let the other candidates come with her. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #57

That's the spirit, Bernie mcar Jan 2020 #9

We all need to reduce our carbon footprint if we are serious about climate change MichMan Jan 2020 #11

I wondered why he can't speak to his rallies via a television link. Blue_true Jan 2020 #33

Does he even interact with his supporters? W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #12

If they can do a Maria Callas hologram tour The Valley Below Jan 2020 #26

You're right - at most of his rallies he has warm-up speakers, he goes on stage and speaks... George II Jan 2020 #73

At first I was like What? Then I realized there are almost no commercial flights in Iowa. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #13

Why not offer to fly Warren out as well? brooklynite Jan 2020 #15

Has those two talked since the debate? Gothmog Jan 2020 #18

Warren and Klobuchar, and Biden too, for that matter. bloom Jan 2020 #89

Biden is already there... brooklynite Jan 2020 #90

That's quite a carbon footprint. What happened to the "green new deal" and us having only 11 years? George II Jan 2020 #20

The green new deal TheFarseer Jan 2020 #97

Doesn't BAN air travel, but calls for a huge reduction in fossil fuel use... George II Jan 2020 #98

And of course as a magnanimous person whistler162 Jan 2020 #21

Not a team player. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #59

So true Gothmog Jan 2020 #170

Gone are the days of boasting the economy class NCProgressive Jan 2020 #24

Socialism is good for YOU boomer_wv Jan 2020 #25

Actually, that is exactly how it has worked historically in socialist systems. Blue_true Jan 2020 #35

That's boomer_wv Jan 2020 #44

And the higher-ups own muiltiple houses, while the common folk live in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #60

Yep. Remember the Russian Dachas on the coast for the higher ups? nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #141

I do remember ...saw a documentary on this. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #148

What is the conflict between socialism and private jets? totodeinhere Jan 2020 #38

well, yeah, that's exactly right. boomer_wv Jan 2020 #43

Of course Bernie calls himself a democratic socialist, but he does not advocate totodeinhere Jan 2020 #45

Then why does he say that billionaires should not exist? Blue_true Jan 2020 #46

That's too different things. You can disagree with his comments on billionaires. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #47

No, it is not two different ideas. Blue_true Jan 2020 #143

He has advocated that in the past. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #61

Link please? n/t totodeinhere Jan 2020 #96

He did... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #111

That's quite a stretch to go back 50 years. Joe Biden has a long record too. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #116

You said prove it..I did. You said I was wrong and I wasn't...and it will be brought up by Trump Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #124

I didn't say you were wrong. i just asked for a link so I could read about since I was not totodeinhere Jan 2020 #136

Sorry...misunderstood...personally I could care a less. It was a long time ago. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #139

And of course he should keep his what two or is it three houses? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #79

You're hurting democrats. i hope you reflect on this Kurt V. Jan 2020 #27

Reflect on this?! Okay, that was funny!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #31

And sanders telling outright lies and the hiring of liars and stein voters is helping the party? Gothmog Jan 2020 #41

Kind of too bad he didn't offer Warren a ride. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #63

Post removed Post removed Jan 2020 #125

NO he's NOT.. I hope you take your own Cha Jan 2020 #145

what i mean to say cha, it's possible that sanders could be the nominee. I'm warren all the way. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #146

So could Biden. Cha Jan 2020 #150

yep Kurt V. Jan 2020 #151

Biden is far more likely to be the nominee Gothmog Jan 2020 #171

Revolutionaries have no time to waste dalton99a Jan 2020 #32

Imagine if Joan d' Arc had a private get to get away from her fate? nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #36

Indeed...the little people must understand that such men live by a different set of rules... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #74

New $23 trillion dollar program coming up NYMinute Jan 2020 #34

Is there something wrong with that? Bernie has a lot of small donors who are footing the bill for totodeinhere Jan 2020 #37

Apparently, he also has unnamed Dark Money Pac donors or so I read right here...I wonder Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #75

I wouldn't necessarily believe everything I read at this website, especially if it's not properly totodeinhere Jan 2020 #99

A complaint has been filed by Common Dreams with the FEC...he has apparently a foreign dark money Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #107

I think you are have your facts wrong. The complaint you may be referring to was filed by totodeinhere Jan 2020 #115

It is our revolution founded by him and Jane...it is a violation and it is not civil. It is Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #117

The FEC has the option to treat it as a ciivl matter. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #135

Why would they and no matter what it is a potentially illegal matter...you think this is OK? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #137

Without a quorum, the FEC is powerless Gothmog Jan 2020 #172

Meh. This one doesn't bug me Recursion Jan 2020 #42

Agreed democrattotheend Feb 2020 #177

Excellent! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #48

He's been sleeping during the impeachment hearings. Tipperary Jan 2020 #49

A real man of the people. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #50

holy moley thats $$$ samnsara Jan 2020 #52

And Joe doesn't? brutus smith Jan 2020 #54

I thought joe was a centrist treestar Jan 2020 #65

And? brutus smith Jan 2020 #81

such a one would be expected to use private jets treestar Jan 2020 #132

"luxurious method of transportation " Blues Heron Jan 2020 #64

wow at the things millionaires and billionaires get to do ! stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #77

I thought he was doing great in the polls. katmondoo Jan 2020 #83

It's really , really stupid The Mouth Jan 2020 #87

Uh, I really don't think I give a fuck sammythecat Jan 2020 #101

I believe he said he would offer seats to Warren and Klobuchar as well Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #102

Bernie is a mensch like that. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #109

Sure...let's see if he meant it. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #113

Maybe he's chartered the same one that he took his family and reporters to Rome on? ehrnst Jan 2020 #168

OMG!!! Disqualifying!!!! Devil Child Jan 2020 #155

Don't know why I even clicked on this thread after passing it over 50 times. Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #156

From the look of it, quite a number of folks, but no one is trying to force you to. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #182

Coach is just so noisy, isn't it? Even first class. And the impeachment trial is exhausting. ehrnst Jan 2020 #165

... betsuni Jan 2020 #167

Why not invite Warren, Klobuchar, and Bennett to come along? Dietz Jan 2020 #169

A perhaps musicman65 Jan 2020 #173

Bernie Leads 2020 Field in Private Jet Spending - Washington Free Beacon Gothmog Feb 2020 #174

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sanders does not look well in this picture Gothmog Feb 2020 #187