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DanTex

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131. And the relevance is?

Thu Jan 23, 2020, 02:10 PM

Jan 2020

I guess you think the nuclear waste should have gone somewhere else in 1998. Umm, OK.

I don't know the details, but it doesn't have anything to do with climate change or why Bernie should be criticized for flying on a private jet but none of the other candidates should be.

If I were to vote in a presidential
primary today, I would vote for: Undecided

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Bernie Sanders to charter private jet to campaign in Iowa during impeachment [View all] Gothmog Jan 2020 OP

I thought he was just like me? dem4decades Jan 2020 #1

Is his dark money group footing the bill? BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #2

I was wondering that too. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #39

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Jan 2020 #3

Geez, nobody is talking about outlawing chartering private planes. thesquanderer Jan 2020 #4

Yep. David__77 Jan 2020 #10

Yep. From the same people too. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #14

Just when you thought you've heard everything, the Bernie bashing reaches a new low!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #28

Sanders' work requires him to be in Washington DC as the junior senator from Vermont. George II Jan 2020 #16

Like any member of Congress running for president, he has multiple obligations. (n/t) thesquanderer Jan 2020 #19

Like any other Senator elected by his constituents, his JOB is in the Senate Chamber in DC. George II Jan 2020 #22

So he shouldn't try to campaign at the same time? Does this apply equally to all Senators? thesquanderer Jan 2020 #23

Yes and Yes. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #40

Does it apply to Nancy also? brutus smith Jan 2020 #51

What about Nancy? Bad optics for Sanders and what with Bloombergs Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #56

Nancy is visiting the Holacaust Memorial True Blue American Jan 2020 #67

I don't recall Nancy being a sponsor of the Green New Deal... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #76

So he should walk to see potential voters? brutus smith Jan 2020 #80

He doesn't need to see potential voter...he could use video as the person you support Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #82

Really? So it's OK for Pelosi because she's not as strong on the environment as Sanders and AOC? DanTex Jan 2020 #84

Sierra Blanca. F-35. N/T lapucelle Jan 2020 #86

What's that? You're not seriously arguing that Bernie and Warren don't have the strongest DanTex Jan 2020 #88

I don't know about Warren. Finance is her strong suit...but I think she is Green...Sanders on the Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #95

What does a 90s dispute about where to put nuclear waste have to do with the Green New Deal? DanTex Jan 2020 #100

It is about dumping nuclear waste on a poor Texas Hispanic area...it is wrong period and certainly Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #103

Anyone who has to ask "what's that" doesn't know the record. lapucelle Jan 2020 #128

And the relevance is? DanTex Jan 2020 #131

Anyone who admits that they don't know facts and details and who also doesn't grasp the relevance lapucelle Jan 2020 #142

Thank You, lapucelle.. Shine the LIGHT! Cha Jan 2020 #147

I don't know how anyone could argue with THIS. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #176

No, She is speaker and has to have security and be places for her job...He on the other hand does Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #91

Then why bring up the Green New Deal? DanTex Jan 2020 #92

He was a sponsor and talked the talk...now let him walk the walk. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #105

Oh, I get it. It's better to be soft on the environment and fly chartered planes than DanTex Jan 2020 #110

Oh and Pelosi is a strong environmental advocate and the difference between her and Sanders is she Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #93

She is, but not as strong as Sanders and AOC. DanTex Jan 2020 #94

She is stronger...she actually passes legislation in the House and the Senate. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #104

She's the speaker of the house, so obviously she has more power. DanTex Jan 2020 #108

She passed legislation before she was the speaker...what has he actually accomplished? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #112

She sponsored environmental legislation that passed? I didn't know that. DanTex Jan 2020 #118

Pelosi didn't seek to dump nuclear waste on a poor Texas communty...her husband wansn't Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #119

So does that mean she didn't sponsor environmental legislation that passed? DanTex Jan 2020 #120

It shows...that Sanders environmental issues when it is convenient for him to do so...and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #122

Come on. Sanders has been the most consistent on the environment of all the candidates. DanTex Jan 2020 #130

That is your opinion...but Trump is trying to revive the Nuclear thing so it could still happen...I Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #133

Trump is also trying to bring up the Hunter Biden Ukraine thing. DanTex Jan 2020 #134

The difference is Sandersw was involved in the nuclear waste dumping on a brown community and his Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #138

It's the same level of nonsense. DanTex Jan 2020 #140

It is completely not nonsense...Bernie wanted to and voted to send nuclear waste to a small Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #152

It is total nonsense and only people who already hate Bernie see it the way you see it. DanTex Jan 2020 #153

It is not vague...it is in the tax return posted on Daily KOS. Mrs. Sanders was on the board and Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #159

Yes, and Hunter Biden was on the board of Burisma and getting paid for it. Who cares? DanTex Jan 2020 #161

LOL. I did some googling. Guess who voted for the compact. Joe Biden!!!!! DanTex Jan 2020 #162

many of them voted for it...but it was Sander's baby as hit affected Vermont...and was Jill biden Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #163

In the future, before throwing out smears, you should check that your guy didn't vote the same. DanTex Jan 2020 #164

Oh, no. Not back to the "hater" thing. Too dramatic. Some folks really dislike Bernie, true, usually emmaverybo Feb 2020 #178

"Hater" is more concise than "really disliker". DanTex Feb 2020 #184

It's the language of his candidacy, which represents an attitude I find divisive. I don't know how emmaverybo Feb 2020 #185

The difference is she's not being a hypocrite. nt UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #144

You're Wrong, dantex.. Nancy is every bit as Strong Cha Jan 2020 #149

For example, she doesn't support the Green New Deal. DanTex Jan 2020 #154

Nancy Supports Environmental Polices that Cha Jan 2020 #157

That's all fine. DanTex Jan 2020 #158

Nancy's a UNITER.. and Stronger! Cha Jan 2020 #160

GND is a moot point. It has zero chances of being enacted as is. Pelosi supports sound do-able emmaverybo Feb 2020 #179

Is Speaker Pelosi campaigning for POTUS as "THE environmental candidate?" (nt) ehrnst Jan 2020 #166

Biden has campaigned for president as a sitting Senator TheFarseer Jan 2020 #85

Certainly, He didn't leave a Senate impeachment trial to run off and campaign. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #106

Let's talk about the respective histories of being unemployed, shall we? The Valley Below Jan 2020 #114

Was there a threat to democracy in the White House under impeachment then? emmaverybo Feb 2020 #180

They know that, but it's BERNIE, so he's subjected to standards that don't apply to other candidates InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #29

Poor beleaguered baby. Don't make a guy out to lead a revolution sound so sensitive to emmaverybo Feb 2020 #181

And even if you believe that Sanders has no "work requirement" that should take him out of DC... thesquanderer Jan 2020 #58

Actually...lots of Green deal folks have had much to say on that subject. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #78

Bingo! secondwind Jan 2020 #55

It ain't working class transpo Wawannabe Jan 2020 #121

Of course he's not working class. He doesn't claim to be. Senators make $174k, + his book sales, thesquanderer Jan 2020 #123

Claims Wawannabe Jan 2020 #126

He became mayor of Burlington VT at about the age of 40. thesquanderer Jan 2020 #129

I'm with you. I think it's the smart thing to do. Scotch-Irish Jan 2020 #127

I don't have any druthers about Bernie flying around, I just hope he stays safe. abqtommy Jan 2020 #5

I wonder if this one has that fancy menu like his R B Garr Jan 2020 #6

I am also wondering about this Gothmog Feb 2020 #175

A rather weak criticism TiberiusB Jan 2020 #7

Good. The man takes his Senate duty seriously, I hope that Liz will hire a private jet too. The Autumn Jan 2020 #8

"The man takes his Senate duty seriously"? The man missed more than 190 consecutive votes.... George II Jan 2020 #17

. Autumn Jan 2020 #62

I don't think it's funny, I think it's sad. That's about $87,000 paid out for no work. George II Jan 2020 #66

You're wasting your time on me George. Autumn Jan 2020 #68

Just pointing out that the person you said took his Senate duty seriously didn't do it for 6 months. George II Jan 2020 #69

You ought to spend your time pointing out what sleazy Republicans are doing. nt Autumn Jan 2020 #70

I do, but unfortunately I feel compelled to spend some of my time correcting the lies... George II Jan 2020 #71

. Autumn Jan 2020 #72

That's a reasonable response that would apply to ANY candidate, which tells you it must be ridiculed InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #30

no thats not it.. samnsara Jan 2020 #53

She won't. But if she did I bet she would let the other candidates come with her. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #57

That's the spirit, Bernie mcar Jan 2020 #9

We all need to reduce our carbon footprint if we are serious about climate change MichMan Jan 2020 #11

I wondered why he can't speak to his rallies via a television link. Blue_true Jan 2020 #33

Does he even interact with his supporters? W_HAMILTON Jan 2020 #12

If they can do a Maria Callas hologram tour The Valley Below Jan 2020 #26

You're right - at most of his rallies he has warm-up speakers, he goes on stage and speaks... George II Jan 2020 #73

At first I was like What? Then I realized there are almost no commercial flights in Iowa. TheBlackAdder Jan 2020 #13

Why not offer to fly Warren out as well? brooklynite Jan 2020 #15

Has those two talked since the debate? Gothmog Jan 2020 #18

Warren and Klobuchar, and Biden too, for that matter. bloom Jan 2020 #89

Biden is already there... brooklynite Jan 2020 #90

That's quite a carbon footprint. What happened to the "green new deal" and us having only 11 years? George II Jan 2020 #20

The green new deal TheFarseer Jan 2020 #97

Doesn't BAN air travel, but calls for a huge reduction in fossil fuel use... George II Jan 2020 #98

And of course as a magnanimous person whistler162 Jan 2020 #21

Not a team player. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #59

So true Gothmog Jan 2020 #170

Gone are the days of boasting the economy class NCProgressive Jan 2020 #24

Socialism is good for YOU boomer_wv Jan 2020 #25

Actually, that is exactly how it has worked historically in socialist systems. Blue_true Jan 2020 #35

That's boomer_wv Jan 2020 #44

And the higher-ups own muiltiple houses, while the common folk live in Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #60

Yep. Remember the Russian Dachas on the coast for the higher ups? nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #141

I do remember ...saw a documentary on this. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #148

What is the conflict between socialism and private jets? totodeinhere Jan 2020 #38

well, yeah, that's exactly right. boomer_wv Jan 2020 #43

Of course Bernie calls himself a democratic socialist, but he does not advocate totodeinhere Jan 2020 #45

Then why does he say that billionaires should not exist? Blue_true Jan 2020 #46

That's too different things. You can disagree with his comments on billionaires. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #47

No, it is not two different ideas. Blue_true Jan 2020 #143

He has advocated that in the past. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #61

Link please? n/t totodeinhere Jan 2020 #96

He did... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #111

That's quite a stretch to go back 50 years. Joe Biden has a long record too. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #116

You said prove it..I did. You said I was wrong and I wasn't...and it will be brought up by Trump Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #124

I didn't say you were wrong. i just asked for a link so I could read about since I was not totodeinhere Jan 2020 #136

Sorry...misunderstood...personally I could care a less. It was a long time ago. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #139

And of course he should keep his what two or is it three houses? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #79

You're hurting democrats. i hope you reflect on this Kurt V. Jan 2020 #27

Reflect on this?! Okay, that was funny!! InAbLuEsTaTe Jan 2020 #31

And sanders telling outright lies and the hiring of liars and stein voters is helping the party? Gothmog Jan 2020 #41

Kind of too bad he didn't offer Warren a ride. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #63

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NO he's NOT.. I hope you take your own Cha Jan 2020 #145

what i mean to say cha, it's possible that sanders could be the nominee. I'm warren all the way. Kurt V. Jan 2020 #146

So could Biden. Cha Jan 2020 #150

yep Kurt V. Jan 2020 #151

Biden is far more likely to be the nominee Gothmog Jan 2020 #171

Revolutionaries have no time to waste dalton99a Jan 2020 #32

Imagine if Joan d' Arc had a private get to get away from her fate? nt Blue_true Jan 2020 #36

Indeed...the little people must understand that such men live by a different set of rules... Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #74

New $23 trillion dollar program coming up NYMinute Jan 2020 #34

Is there something wrong with that? Bernie has a lot of small donors who are footing the bill for totodeinhere Jan 2020 #37

Apparently, he also has unnamed Dark Money Pac donors or so I read right here...I wonder Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #75

I wouldn't necessarily believe everything I read at this website, especially if it's not properly totodeinhere Jan 2020 #99

A complaint has been filed by Common Dreams with the FEC...he has apparently a foreign dark money Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #107

I think you are have your facts wrong. The complaint you may be referring to was filed by totodeinhere Jan 2020 #115

It is our revolution founded by him and Jane...it is a violation and it is not civil. It is Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #117

The FEC has the option to treat it as a ciivl matter. totodeinhere Jan 2020 #135

Why would they and no matter what it is a potentially illegal matter...you think this is OK? Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #137

Without a quorum, the FEC is powerless Gothmog Jan 2020 #172

Meh. This one doesn't bug me Recursion Jan 2020 #42

Agreed democrattotheend Feb 2020 #177

Excellent! Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #48

He's been sleeping during the impeachment hearings. Tipperary Jan 2020 #49

A real man of the people. LanternWaste Jan 2020 #50

holy moley thats $$$ samnsara Jan 2020 #52

And Joe doesn't? brutus smith Jan 2020 #54

I thought joe was a centrist treestar Jan 2020 #65

And? brutus smith Jan 2020 #81

such a one would be expected to use private jets treestar Jan 2020 #132

"luxurious method of transportation " Blues Heron Jan 2020 #64

wow at the things millionaires and billionaires get to do ! stonecutter357 Jan 2020 #77

I thought he was doing great in the polls. katmondoo Jan 2020 #83

It's really , really stupid The Mouth Jan 2020 #87

Uh, I really don't think I give a fuck sammythecat Jan 2020 #101

I believe he said he would offer seats to Warren and Klobuchar as well Fiendish Thingy Jan 2020 #102

Bernie is a mensch like that. Hassin Bin Sober Jan 2020 #109

Sure...let's see if he meant it. Demsrule86 Jan 2020 #113

Maybe he's chartered the same one that he took his family and reporters to Rome on? ehrnst Jan 2020 #168

OMG!!! Disqualifying!!!! Devil Child Jan 2020 #155

Don't know why I even clicked on this thread after passing it over 50 times. Quixote1818 Jan 2020 #156

From the look of it, quite a number of folks, but no one is trying to force you to. emmaverybo Feb 2020 #182

Coach is just so noisy, isn't it? Even first class. And the impeachment trial is exhausting. ehrnst Jan 2020 #165

... betsuni Jan 2020 #167

Why not invite Warren, Klobuchar, and Bennett to come along? Dietz Jan 2020 #169

A perhaps musicman65 Jan 2020 #173

Bernie Leads 2020 Field in Private Jet Spending - Washington Free Beacon Gothmog Feb 2020 #174

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sanders does not look well in this picture Gothmog Feb 2020 #187