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Jersey Devil
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:00 PM Original message |
Breaking News: Gunman Reported Shooting on Northern Illinois Campus |
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zanne
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Psychopaths with guns. Goddamnit! |
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Konza
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Damn....every semester I have to talk to my students about this |
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gorfle
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:17 PM Response to Reply #1 |
13. When will people realize |
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kanrok
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. There is no CCW in Illinois |
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LSK
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:00 PM Response to Reply #13 |
22. when has a concealed carry person EVER stopped a shooting??? |
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gorfle
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:01 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. It happens hundreds of times a year |
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dogfacedboy
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. How did that stop the killing of the two in the parking lot?!?! n/t |
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Irreverend IX
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. It didn't. |
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uppityperson
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #32 |
51. "He was ready to go"=stop the shooting? No. It didn't. Poor example. |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #27 |
134. It didn't |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #24 |
53. Wasn't the "armed parishioner" a uniformed security guard? |
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benEzra
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #53 |
82. No, she was a church member with gun experience and a carry license... |
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Critters2
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #82 |
209. She was there as a security guard, and brought the gun for that purpose. |
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benEzra
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Sat Feb-16-08 11:45 AM Response to Reply #209 |
221. She was not official security; had she been, her Beretta would have been ILLEGAL in that setting |
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Critters2
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Sat Feb-16-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #221 |
228. If my church maed arrangements for a gun-toting parishioner to be on the grounds, |
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benEzra
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Sat Feb-16-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #228 |
230. Some synagogues have been doing this for a while, with good reason. |
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Critters2
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Sun Feb-17-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #230 |
238. Or , a church could try to take seriously the teachings of Jesus. nt |
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benEzra
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Sun Feb-17-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #238 |
239. ...who said, if someone slaps you, turn the other cheek, |
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Critters2
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Mon Feb-18-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #239 |
240. the Catechism of the Catholic Church is not a source of my theology. |
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Virginia Dare
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Fri Feb-15-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #53 |
157. That's correct, big difference...n/t |
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benEzra
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Sat Feb-16-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #157 |
226. No, she wasn't uniformed security. She was a church member with a carry license... |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #24 |
56. Got a link? |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:48 AM Response to Reply #24 |
109. "hundreds of times a year?" According to....? |
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Virginia Dare
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Fri Feb-15-08 10:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
156. That was a private security guard, not just some citizen ambling along..n/t |
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benEzra
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Sat Feb-16-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #156 |
227. No, she wasn't a "private security guard," at least not for the church... |
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pipoman
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Another question |
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LSK
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. 2 weeks ago at a store in Chicagoland |
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pipoman
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. The whole state of IL and Chitown metro area in particular is a gun free zone |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:13 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. The state of IL is a gun free zone? |
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pipoman
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. Law abiding people in IL do not have a right to possess a defensive |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Oh, okay. |
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pipoman
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. I don't think we totally disagree |
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benEzra
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Sat Feb-16-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
225. Wisconsin and Illinois are the only two states that do not issue CHL's... |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #63 |
111. it's a nice fantasia -- everyone drawing on each other, only the bad guys getting shot |
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pipoman
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:23 AM Response to Reply #111 |
125. Gun control hasn't worked at all |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 11:03 AM Response to Reply #125 |
158. you people want to arm everyone -- and yes, the "silly scenarios" actually do happen |
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pipoman
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:07 PM Response to Reply #158 |
181. Any links? Any at all? I didn't think so. |
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pipoman
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:12 PM Response to Reply #158 |
208. Still waitin on the links to the silly scenarios regarding CCW holders |
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smoogatz
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:20 PM Response to Reply #125 |
166. What's your answer to the mass shooting phenomenon? |
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pipoman
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:29 PM Response to Reply #166 |
184. There isn't any easy answer. |
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smoogatz
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:47 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. I don't buy the "if it wasn't a gun it'd be a bomb or a butterknife" argument. |
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pipoman
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #189 |
196. Access to guns in this country can't easily be curtailed |
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Critters2
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #166 |
210. And who decides who's "non-crazy"? nt |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:39 AM Response to Reply #111 |
136. You do realize |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 11:04 AM Response to Reply #136 |
159. ah, a citation from "Gunfacts!" |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:11 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. Are you going to refute the citation? |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #163 |
167. It's a pro-gun "study" that mostly references othe pro-gun "studies" |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #167 |
168. Do you have.... |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #168 |
169. do you have... any empathy for any of the victims of gun violence? Do you know any? |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Yes I do. Are you going to answer my question now? |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. I know some gun victims, too. None of them would've been "saved" by more guns |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:41 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Very true. |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #176 |
177. I'm sure you are. May you be in position to take down the next mass shooter. |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #177 |
178. I hope I would have the courage. |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #178 |
179. *not* acting would defeat the entire rationale for gun proliferation... |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #179 |
183. Yes... |
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villager
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Fri Feb-15-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #183 |
198. well --your hidden gun makes you safer |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 05:22 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. Like I said before... |
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villager
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Sat Feb-16-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #200 |
229. Given that *their* means was made much easier to get, by you folks, I hope you do, too. |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
135. Yeah really! |
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pegleg
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
241. At the church in Colorado |
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dbackjon
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
30. So you can be like the COP in Missouri who was killed by a lunatic |
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Critters2
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #30 |
211. Yeah, that turned out well. If only everyone had guns! |
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superconnected
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:01 PM Response to Reply #13 |
35. as opposed to armed concealed weapons holders that have died |
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Irreverend IX
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Which concealed weapons holders were those? nt |
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pipoman
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #40 |
47. IIRC there were 2 who were disarmed at VT |
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bossy22
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:01 PM Response to Reply #47 |
74. there were |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
54. Who were the "disarmed ccw" people killed at VT? |
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zanne
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:25 AM Response to Reply #13 |
132. You'd fit right in at the Gun Forum. |
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Ellen Forradalom
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:41 AM Response to Reply #13 |
137. A generation ago this shit was UNTHINKABLE. |
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AllyCat
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:06 PM Response to Reply #137 |
180. My husband and I were talking about this last night. |
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Ellen Forradalom
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Fri Feb-15-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #180 |
202. Yes, I agree it's a multi-faceted problem. |
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harun
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Fri Feb-15-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #137 |
216. It is a cultural problem, not a "everyone needs to be armed" problem |
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pegleg
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Tue Feb-19-08 06:10 AM Response to Reply #216 |
242. One huge reason is that the mental health system |
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Archae
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Crap, you were one minute ahead of me! |
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Jersey Devil
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. Updated |
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RedEarth
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. What the hell is wrong with people |
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Bake
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
6. CNN reporting up to 15 wounded. |
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halobeam
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. CNN reporting 18 shot |
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gorfle
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Now saying only 2...gunman dead |
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ncteechur
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. A Valentine's present from NRA and GOP? Gee, thanks! |
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zanne
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:13 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Yup. This cartoon tells a tale... |
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Pavulon
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. Lets discuss Roe V Wade, and defense spending |
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BB1
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
126. It still is an US-American problem |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:43 AM Response to Reply #126 |
138. What about shotguns? |
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BB1
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #138 |
151. why need guns in the first place? |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:13 PM Response to Reply #151 |
164. Why we need firearms |
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MarkInLA
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #164 |
186. The founding fathers also believed that slavery was a good thing. We evolve - well, most of us do. |
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Pavulon
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Fri Feb-15-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #151 |
204. Just like dope, heroin, and every other ban |
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AllyCat
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:08 PM Response to Reply #138 |
182. Shotguns do have some other legitimate purpose. |
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benEzra
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Sat Feb-16-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #182 |
231. Depends on the handgun. |
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bossy22
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
68. thankgod you are here |
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Fri Feb-15-08 07:40 AM Response to Reply #68 |
131. Time for my favorite phrase.... |
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Archae
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
9. Gunman reported shooting on Illinois campus |
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madrchsod
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. delete |
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madrchsod
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. local news crews just arriving according to the local rockford il |
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bdamomma
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
15. what is wrong with these people?? |
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Redstone
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
16. Jesus, this is what? Every other day for a WEEK now? Do we have enough fucking GUNS |
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subsuelo
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
117. hey I have the answer! Let's have MORE guns! |
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
17. These are so common now that this is getting hardly any coverage on TV |
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halobeam
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:49 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I know. I can't believe the world we live in anymore. |
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PeaceNikki
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. They are not that common. Hopefully they're learning not to sensationalize these stories. |
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MarkInLA
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
45. It'll probably get more coverage on TV news OUTSIDE of the U.S. than inside |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:45 AM Response to Reply #45 |
139. That is exactly correct. |
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MarkInLA
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #139 |
185. Yes, please buy guns for all of the children of America, too. That should solve lots of problems. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
21. Just your average day in gun-crazy America -- learn to "live" with it. (NT) |
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lebkuchen
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
120. If much of Europe can live to learn with smoking bans in public places |
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Tesha
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Fri Feb-15-08 07:15 AM Response to Reply #120 |
127. I'm glad you're still hopeful, but I'm starting to give up hope; America is a mortally-sick society. |
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lebkuchen
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:55 PM Response to Reply #127 |
190. Yeah, |
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harun
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Fri Feb-15-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #127 |
217. People can only hear the propaganda from their government for |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #120 |
170. If we ban guns we will have this problem |
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lebkuchen
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #170 |
191. I don't live in the US |
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Critters2
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #170 |
212. You seriously think this guy could've stabbed 18 people in one room? nt |
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Mojorabbit
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Sat Feb-16-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #212 |
218. I don't know how crazed he was |
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:00 PM Response to Original message |
23. Deleted message |
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. Because they are easy targets. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yeah. See if everyone would just carry a gun |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:47 AM Response to Reply #28 |
142. This is a myth. |
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superconnected
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
37. Highly unlikely. |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
143. I don't know but... |
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Sigh. You are undoubtedly correct...and that's just so sad. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. On K Street they are a lot more likely to encounter someone carrying a gun for self-defense |
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Irreverend IX
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. K Street in Washington, D.C.? |
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slackmaster
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:32 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. There are plenty of crooks of all stripes on K Street to be sure |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:37 PM Response to Reply #41 |
94. yet the crooks that kill people in DC are the ones carrying weapons that are supposedly outlawed |
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Thu Feb-14-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. "Let there be blood"-the New American slogan-a violent country filled with violent men |
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superconnected
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. I guess he was going for a Valentines day massacre. |
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DuaneBidoux
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:28 PM Response to Original message |
39. If every single student had been armed he wouldn't have got nearly that far. |
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gorfle
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #39 |
144. It's also true. |
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DuaneBidoux
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Fri Feb-15-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #144 |
199. What else is true however is that if everyone was armed on campus there are at least a half |
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
42. The Chicago Tribune is reporting five are dead. |
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Wcross
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Thu Feb-14-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
43. I think it is more of a mental health issue than a gun issue. |
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Bluebear
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. Why is this such an overwhelmingly American problem then? |
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Wcross
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
72. Lack of affordable mental health care? |
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bossy22
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:02 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. mental healthcare |
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Wcross
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. Almost non-existent. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
172. And it seems that in this case, you are right: dude was "off his meds" |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
48. Gunman kills 4, self at N. Illinois U. |
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Bicoastal
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. From the stage of a LECTURE HALL?! |
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smoogatz
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Just wait. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. What a load of shit. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. So why do we persist in arming the sons of bitches? |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
64. No restrictions on Diesel fuel |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. 300 million btw |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #67 |
86. For once I agree |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #86 |
95. Not true. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #95 |
99. My post doesn't distinguish |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Again, I have to disagree. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:54 AM Response to Reply #99 |
145. Sometimes you have to do some destruction before construction |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
102. You used to be reasonably sane. What the hell happened? |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #102 |
105. You must have me confused with someone else. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #105 |
106. I find that hard to believe - nobody is born nuts. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #50 |
62. Thanks household chemicals...TATP |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. You're kidding, right? |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. you overestimate |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:00 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. I shoot sporting clays. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:04 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. ive tried sporting clays before |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #76 |
92. It's all about timing. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. To catch a media streak.. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. You are totally wrong. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
96. Is it really that new? |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
97. Three in the last year equals a trend. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. which shows the problem with the media |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. You can't blame the media for reporting these incidents. |
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Sat Feb-16-08 07:26 PM Response to Reply #104 |
232. I wish they wouldn't publish their names and photos... |
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Sat Feb-16-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
234. If You're Going To Bash The Media.... |
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Sat Feb-16-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #234 |
235. why you hatin? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #235 |
236. Political Dog, My Ass |
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Sat Feb-16-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #236 |
237. Geneva. Great city |
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Fri Feb-15-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #49 |
129. I taught classes at Cole Hall as a grad student in the late '80's |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
52. reply |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. Maybe we should stop arming crazy people. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. we should def stop arming crazy people |
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Thu Feb-14-08 08:20 PM Response to Original message |
60. Gun Violence Happens Way too Often |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
77. I Don't Want To Hear It, Gun Nuts |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. simple solution |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Well said. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #80 |
112. well said indeed, Paladin! |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:40 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Fair enough. Please propose some solutions |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #77 |
84. Well when you have a meaningful post, check in |
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Thu Feb-14-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Bravo! |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
87. Ok ban ownership for anyone earning under.. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. No, no, no. We have to go farther than that. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:09 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. Hey this is easier than looking at the problem |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #91 |
103. see my other posts. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #77 |
89. Thank you. |
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Thu Feb-14-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. The problem is our society |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #98 |
113. This society is too materialistic |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:09 AM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Do you think ego has anything to do with it? |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:29 AM Response to Reply #119 |
122. Yes, ego has a lot to do with it. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #122 |
192. American culture seems to be one of isolation |
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Fri Feb-15-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #192 |
201. Good point |
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Sat Feb-16-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #201 |
220. so right |
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Sat Feb-16-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #192 |
222. You are exactly right...and Bush and company have accelerated that fractionalization. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #77 |
107. Excellent post, Paladin. Right on point and irrefutable. But I've noticed |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:56 AM Response to Reply #107 |
114. it's not only their arrogance, but their absolute cold-bloodedness |
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Sat Feb-16-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #114 |
223. OK, what would you suggest those of us who disagree with your approach do in threads like this? |
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Sat Feb-16-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Oh, Come On, Ben |
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:46 AM Response to Reply #107 |
140. After You've Been Here A While..... |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #107 |
148. More guns |
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Fri Feb-15-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #107 |
205. Read the post order |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
116. I don't want to live my retirement years in the US of A |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #116 |
149. The answer: |
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:20 PM Response to Reply #149 |
194. or not be a target at all |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:21 AM Response to Reply #77 |
121. God bless the NRA and GOA then. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 07:36 AM Response to Reply #121 |
130. WOW... |
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:59 AM Response to Reply #121 |
146. Your Side Is Going Down In Flames On This Issue |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #121 |
214. The side that threatens people with guns? |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #77 |
147. Then don't read this post... |
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Fri Feb-15-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #147 |
155. Nice try. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #155 |
165. I just may do it. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
173. And this guy completely planned this attack. He bought the guns in advance, |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
213. Thank you. nt |
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Thu Feb-14-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
90. Goddammit. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:34 AM Response to Original message |
108. Why have have school campuses become such magnets for shootings sprees? |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #108 |
150. Easy pickings. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #108 |
154. A couple of reasons I believe |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
110. Somebody had the winter blahs and decided to take it out on others |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:00 AM Response to Reply #110 |
115. Perhaps the shooter was on anti-depressants for those winter blahs? |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #115 |
118. There's a lot to be depressed about in the US these days |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:46 AM Response to Reply #118 |
123. Related article |
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #123 |
193. Do you think these medical errors are more pronounced in the states |
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Fri Feb-15-08 07:26 AM Response to Reply #115 |
128. Except that when you look at these individuals after the fact |
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Fri Feb-15-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #115 |
197. I wonder about that too |
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Fri Feb-15-08 06:55 PM Response to Reply #197 |
206. There's plenty of anecdotal evidence about SSRIs increasing violent behavior |
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Fri Feb-15-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #206 |
207. I don't doubt it |
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Fri Feb-15-08 02:06 AM Response to Original message |
124. Please, oh, please, homicidal/suicidal people, |
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
133. 7 have now died. Damn it. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
141. These incidents are rising because of the ECONOMY. |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #141 |
153. Proof? |
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Fri Feb-15-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #153 |
160. Honestly, right now I have only a correlation |
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Fri Feb-15-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #160 |
161. I don't think these type of things are related to poverty |
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Sat Feb-16-08 07:37 PM Response to Reply #141 |
233. Perhaps in part, but I think our increasing social alienation/factionalization may be a bigger part |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
152. Its our history and the way we view dealing with our "problems" |
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Fri Feb-15-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
162. I wish these SOB's would just kill themselves and get it over with, |
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Fri Feb-15-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
174. So unless Mel Brooks finally writes Part II of History of the World... |
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:00 PM Response to Reply #174 |
187. Thanks, I just got this mental image of Cheney as Torquemada... |
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Fri Feb-15-08 03:09 PM Response to Reply #187 |
188. My favorite vignette from the film... |
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Fri Feb-15-08 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
195. BBC just wondered whether Americans were concerned about gun violence |
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Fri Feb-15-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #195 |
203. Who The Hell Did The BBC Talk To: Ted Fucking Nugent? (n/t) |
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Fri Feb-15-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #203 |
215. Spent a few minutes in the gundgeon. nt |
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Sat Feb-16-08 01:56 AM Response to Reply #203 |
219. It took one massacre in Australia, on Tasmania, to incite Aussies to change |
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Tue Feb-19-08 08:16 PM Response to Reply #219 |
243. As can be seen in this thread, most Americans are UTTERLY irrational when it comes to guns |
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Wed Mar-05-08 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
244. Columbine Attack Government Document Library |
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