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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:20 AM Original message |
Schwarzenegger proposes temporary California sales-tax hike to close budget gap |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
1. In my lifetime, I've never seen anything the government says is "temporary" to be temporary. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Yup, we already pay over 8%, and sales tax is as regressive a tax as you can have |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Which is tax evasion. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. No, that is not correct |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. Not only are you breaking the law, you suck at research |
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Zhade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. No, you're still wrong - and YOU flung the serious accusation of tax evasion. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Are you kidding me? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 09:49 AM Response to Reply #35 |
51. I know about the use tax, Joe, but it is neither enforced nor enforcable in California |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Look, I am simply stating the facts |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Interstate commerce is an issue for the federal government to deal with |
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petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #26 |
50. He is correct - internet retailers are not required to collect sales tax, |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Well I used to be a retailer and the sales tax is a tax on gross sales within California. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. EXACTLY what I was going to say |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. You are so wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Point conceded for that example alone. |
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The Croquist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 02:12 PM Response to Reply #18 |
32. Thanks |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:37 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. VOWED ? ? ? ? gotta get me one of those POLITICAL dictionaries i guess!!!! |
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Parche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. Why Dont They Recall Him |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I just found this on the web , I am going to check it out. |
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ForPeace (122 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #4 |
25. Looks out of date |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
31. dunno |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
5. Just another failed Republican Governor who resorts to raising taxes to fix his problems. |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. He has to raise taxes. There is no other way. It's just that he is raising the |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 11:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. raising taxes is the best thing to do, frankly.... |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. State income taxes on the wealthy should be first |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
37. totally agree... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
39. No it will penalize California home-grown businesses and their employees. |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 06:28 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. that's why I prefer to amend Prop 13.... |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 06:32 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Now we totally agree, Mike. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
7. Missing from the 'tax our way out' scenarios are discussions to reduce BUSINESSES tax giveaways. nt |
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Double T (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
8. 'temporary' sales tax hike? |
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Truth4Justice (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 04:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
46. More online sales to California sans tax. BTW when I lived there it was 8.75 %. |
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bahrbearian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. Why didn't he pursue the Enron $9 Billion fraud? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Nothing to do with that secret meeting he had with Enron bigwigs, |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
10. Gropernator Has to Raise Taxes Because He Let ENRON ROB US BLIND! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
21. Kick for your post |
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Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
11. Higher Taxes for the Poor! |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
12. Of course - the most regressive tax possible. |
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kimmylavin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
13. "new powers for governors to cut programs whenever the state falls into the red" |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
16. re instate teh car fees and we will close |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #16 |
56. But then our dipwad 'governor' |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. Republicans never met a regressive tax they didn't like. |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
23. vowed... vowed... ahhhh.....like a promise except you can UNvow...i get it |
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happygoluckytoyou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
24. a lot like a 1 % pay cut through your spending ability..... |
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Bluestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
28. Why not a windfall tax on the damn oil companies |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Unenforceable.... |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 11:00 AM Response to Reply #28 |
57. Yeah and some of those states, |
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llmart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. When will the outcry from the Republicans start? |
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LynnTheDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
33. "temporary taxes"... |
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Xolodno (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 03:32 PM Response to Original message |
34. I agree with this... |
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pinniped (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
36. I bought a 6k item in OR and forgot to pay taxes on it. |
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Truth4Justice (806 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 04:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
47. Send it to me. I will file it for you. Or I would if I still lived in CA. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #36 |
52. If the California sales tax was only 4%, would have been more or less likely to buy that item in CA? |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
54. If it is a yacht, you don't have to pay it. |
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David Zephyr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 06:11 PM Response to Original message |
38. And this is the dickwad that recalled Gov. Davis for raising taxes? |
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David__77 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
42. I oppose sales tax in general. It's the GOP's favorite tax. |
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flashl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
43. WOW |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-05-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. Go where the money is, tax the rich. nt |
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DailyGrind51 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-06-08 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
49. In Chicago, we have the highest sales tax in the nation (10.5%), |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:01 AM Response to Reply #49 |
53. You have much higher property taxes than we do here as well |
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roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
55. Let's reply with a spending moratorium on all |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. I have been using barter for a lot of transactions lately |
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Lifetimedem (652 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
61. My experience with "temporary " |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-07-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. So Arnold finally admits that he has to raise taxes to |
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