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onehandle
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:19 AM Original message |
Smokers face a hit as tobacco taxes spike |
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BooScout
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
1. Welcome to my world.... |
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glowing
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm quitting. Sorry, poor children, I won't be able to fund your healthcare. |
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Bandit
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:52 AM Response to Reply #2 |
14. You also won't be the cause of the children needing Health care. |
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Bake
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
128. How do you know he/she smokes around children? |
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:04 AM Response to Reply #14 |
131. Yes, because the only reason children need |
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LanternWaste
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #2 |
167. Tobacco taxes is the only funding the program receives...? |
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panader0
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
3. I'm a light smoker |
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debunkthelies
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #3 |
55. I second that, |
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Thor_MN
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
68. Don't you have that backwards? |
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debunkthelies
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:24 PM Response to Reply #68 |
96. You read my post wrong. |
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ProudDad
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Sun Mar-29-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
93. Get real! |
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panader0
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. What's your "filthy habit"? Or are you pure Through and through? |
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TroglodyteScholar
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Mon Mar-30-09 08:10 AM Response to Reply #100 |
122. Are you implying that everyone has a habit as filthy as smoking? |
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bunnies
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Wed Apr-01-09 08:57 AM Response to Reply #93 |
162. Educate yourself. |
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ProudDad
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Sat Apr-18-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #162 |
179. You should brush up on your reading skills |
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roguevalley
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Mon Mar-30-09 07:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
120. tax both. they both kill. there are zero levels of safe smoke for non smokers. |
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noamnety
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
135. The two are separate issues, but |
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old mark
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
4. Quit. nt |
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Why Syzygy
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
5. I already dropped 'em when they raised their prices! |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
6. I went cold turkey years ago |
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
7. Federal taxes |
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Summermoondancer
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
130. It is the price you pay |
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The_Commonist
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
8. Cigarettes are $10 a pack in NYC... |
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billyoc
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
9. Who the hell pays taxes on cigarettes? |
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tosh
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:48 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Thanks for that, billyoc. |
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onehandle
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Almost all smokers buy in convenience stores or grocery stores. |
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billyoc
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Well, those smokers deserve to foot the bill for health care |
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santamargarita
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #9 |
39. Has anyone tested this site? |
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Seedersandleechers
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Sun Mar-29-09 08:17 PM Response to Reply #9 |
89. Thanks for that link |
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Abacus
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #9 |
126. I used to use yesmoke, but they quit shipping to the US |
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:51 AM Response to Reply #9 |
129. Good to read a post from someone who lives in the real world |
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Carni
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:13 AM Response to Reply #9 |
134. Wow there are some great prices on spirits! |
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
10. ... |
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Kajsa
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
11. Yet, no such tax increases |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. when did congress pass this tax increase? |
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Kajsa
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. See the link, |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #17 |
38. Barack Obama signed that health initiative soon after taking office. |
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endless october
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:15 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. alcohol is in line for taxation |
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Abq_Sarah
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Tue Mar-31-09 01:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
147. Good. |
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Odin2005
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. Oh noes, get the WAAAAHmbulance!!! |
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Kajsa
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Just wait till beer gets hit with |
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frustrated_lefty
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #13 |
45. Warmth will fill my heart |
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russspeakeasy
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
80. ABSOLUTELY !!! |
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Webster Green
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
16. Great additional incentive to quit (n/t) |
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Milspec
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. My incentive was two weeks ago |
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Speck Tater
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. My incentive was a good friend's lung cancer diagnosis. |
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pmorlan1
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
44. Incentive? I Think Not - Try Coercion |
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Webster Green
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Ah jeez! |
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harun
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #16 |
51. It help me quit, but that was years ago when they first really starting taxing |
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WheelWalker
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Tue Mar-31-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
158. My incentive was surviving a massive myocardial infarc. n/t |
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endless october
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:14 AM Response to Original message |
19. i hate regressive taxes. |
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G_j
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
21. since tobacco is arguably more addictive than heroin |
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primavera
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
37. But then the government would have to find legitimate ways of funding pork |
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vanboggie
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:22 PM Response to Reply #21 |
69. Exactly |
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Robb
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
84. Well put. nt |
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pamela
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Mon Mar-30-09 03:37 AM Response to Reply #69 |
108. Have you tried the electronic cig? |
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vanboggie
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Mon Mar-30-09 03:54 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. Never heard of it |
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pamela
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Mon Mar-30-09 04:14 AM Response to Reply #109 |
113. check out this forum... |
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vanboggie
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #113 |
139. Thank you Pamela! |
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Bryn
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Tue Mar-31-09 12:00 AM Response to Reply #139 |
146. When you get your first e-cigarette you will enjoy .... |
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vanboggie
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Tue Mar-31-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #146 |
151. Most interesting |
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suffragette
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Tue Mar-31-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #113 |
148. They are nice, aren't they? |
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pamela
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Mon Mar-30-09 04:27 AM Response to Reply #109 |
114. Oops sorry, I didn't answer your question about the ban... |
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snooper2
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Mon Mar-30-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #108 |
127. thanks for the info- how long do the cartridges last you? |
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pamela
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Mon Mar-30-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #127 |
141. Cartridges can last indefinitely... |
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Bryn
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:39 PM Response to Reply #141 |
144. I love my e-cigarette which is DSE901 |
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ms liberty
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Mon Mar-30-09 07:12 AM Response to Reply #69 |
118. Well said. Thank you. n/t |
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ProudDad
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Fri Apr-17-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #69 |
174. Having gone through withdrawal |
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ProudDad
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Sun Mar-29-09 09:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
94. You'ld rather they sling their asses into prison? (n/t) |
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G_j
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. I don't understand your question. nt |
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Doremus
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Tue Mar-31-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
152. Wouldn't it be nice to have free smoke cessation treatments, clinics and such? |
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Mari333
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:18 AM Response to Original message |
23. looks like I will have to change my addiction to something cheap toxic and deadly |
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Mauibob
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
25. tobacco tax |
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Mari333
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. oh what website did you use to order from russia |
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Mauibob
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #28 |
32. russian cigarettes |
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Mari333
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. thanks! nt |
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onehandle
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. See reply #18. nt |
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debunkthelies
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Thanks |
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pmorlan1
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
41. No Russian Cigs for me |
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Sun Mar-29-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #25 |
76. Thats my only problem with higher tobacco taxes |
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
29. What's ironic to me |
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Sat Apr-18-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #29 |
178. That 'other' plant causes pleasure. |
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DissedByBush
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
30. Hitting the poor the hardest |
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onehandle
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Sun Mar-29-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Nicotine slavery hits the poor the hardest. |
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DissedByBush
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:11 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. May I choose another vice to persecute? |
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onehandle
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Sun Mar-29-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Yes. That's one of the handful of old responses throw out. |
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DissedByBush
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Sun Mar-29-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #62 |
87. Alzheimer's |
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christx30
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #52 |
97. Or better yet, |
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vanboggie
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Mon Mar-30-09 12:40 AM Response to Reply #97 |
103. self delete |
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christx30
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #103 |
143. If you don't want to |
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Tyler Generation
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:05 PM Response to Reply #30 |
43. Poor people don't have an excuse to smoke |
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DissedByBush
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. And you think you have the power |
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debunkthelies
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #49 |
59. How True |
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Tyler Generation
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
71. Wow, objective thought process from you two! |
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf
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Sun Mar-29-09 06:02 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. Being poor is a huge stressor. |
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Tyler Generation
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. I smoked for 10 years and quit actually |
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Mon Mar-30-09 09:09 AM Response to Reply #79 |
125. So, what, you want a cookie? |
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Dreamer Tatum
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #74 |
136. I wonder how you'd respond to the following tobacco industry report |
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DissedByBush
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #59 |
145. Seriously, you get to decide what's good and bad? |
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christx30
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Fri Apr-17-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #49 |
173. I don't think |
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WestSeattle2
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. I don't get it either.... |
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wroberts189
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Mon Mar-30-09 02:24 AM Response to Reply #50 |
106. Let me put it this way.. |
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wroberts189
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Mon Mar-30-09 02:19 AM Response to Reply #43 |
105. No "bleeding heart" ...listen ..have you ever got addicted? nt |
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madrchsod
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
35. i quit smoking in 82 when cigs were around a dollar a pack |
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SlicerDicer-
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
36. Thank you feds... |
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Mari333
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. you are evil because you smoke |
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SlicerDicer-
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Sun Mar-29-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Ok its rant time! |
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pmorlan1
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Authoritarian Tobacco Police |
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WestSeattle2
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Sun Mar-29-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Just wait.... |
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debunkthelies
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #46 |
61. Amen |
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Tue Mar-31-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #40 |
154. seriously, everyone is sooo holier-than-thou about everything nowadays. very boring. |
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joshcryer
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
166. epic post, awesome |
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LanternWaste
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #36 |
168. And they just peacefully pushed me to quit... |
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downindixie
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
53. I've been smoking for 53 years and never |
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debunkthelies
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. K&R |
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Dogmudgeon
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
54. This regressive policy will hit young smokers hardest! |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #54 |
67. The Children’s Health Insurance Program Reauthorization Act of 2009 was signed into law oFebruary 4 |
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bain_sidhe
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
56. Can we at least agree... |
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bain_sidhe
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. *crickets* |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. ..but in the same breath you have no problem saying |
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bain_sidhe
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Sun Mar-29-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
78. The rich receive the benefits |
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Tyler Generation
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:23 PM Response to Reply #75 |
81. Stop making sense! |
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bain_sidhe
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Sun Mar-29-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
77. *more crickets* |
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christx30
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
99. Would you say that |
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bain_sidhe
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #99 |
138. The difference is |
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christx30
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Mon Mar-30-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. But only smokers |
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wroberts189
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Mon Mar-30-09 02:26 AM Response to Reply #56 |
107. Count me in. nt |
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rd_kent
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Sun Mar-29-09 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
57. Am I missing something? Whats the problem here? |
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DatManFromNawlins
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Sun Mar-29-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
63. Suddenly... |
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christx30
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
101. What would you say |
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annabanana
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Sun Mar-29-09 04:24 PM Response to Original message |
64. Those e-cigs are looking better & better, aren't they? |
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Deep13
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Sun Mar-29-09 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
65. We can't hope to reform healthcare without contolling its cost. |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Cigarette tax kicks in April 1st ( 258% TAX increase for the "roll your own" crowd )) |
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Tyler Generation
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. No, some idiot will give Tobacco companies a free pass because of their bias |
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downindixie
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Sun Mar-29-09 05:53 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. I pay for my own kids health care |
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primavera
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #72 |
86. ROTFL! |
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bunnies
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Wed Apr-01-09 09:12 AM Response to Reply #72 |
163. By that logic... |
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russspeakeasy
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #65 |
82. You are really Jeb Bush aren't you???? |
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Deep13
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Mon Mar-30-09 08:13 AM Response to Reply #82 |
123. If this were a sporting event.... |
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williesgirl
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
83. So how are they going to fund SCHIP when we all stop smoking? Get ready beer drinkers, wine, butter |
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Codeine
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Sun Mar-29-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. You're not going to quit. |
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Bryn
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #85 |
98. You're wrong |
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Marrah_G
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Mon Mar-30-09 07:15 AM Response to Reply #85 |
119. Yes- they will. I did. |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Mar-29-09 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
88. A "fair tax" would be on something everyone uses...I figure |
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ohio2007
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Sun Mar-29-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
90. the gas tax is only a few short months away from the floor of congress |
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rasputin1952
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Sun Mar-29-09 08:42 PM Response to Reply #90 |
91. Gas can have unwanted consequences... |
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Sun Mar-29-09 09:29 PM Response to Original message |
92. WooHoo!!! |
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Sun Mar-29-09 10:05 PM Response to Original message |
95. Sounds like a black market opportunity |
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Mon Mar-30-09 04:05 AM Response to Reply #95 |
111. Better hurry |
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Mon Mar-30-09 02:16 AM Response to Original message |
104. I am an x-smoker who has great empathy for those who still smoke. |
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Mon Mar-30-09 04:14 AM Response to Reply #104 |
112. +1 |
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Mon Mar-30-09 03:58 AM Response to Original message |
110. An unfair tax always creates an underground "Heist nets more than $90,000 in cigarettes" |
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Mon Mar-30-09 06:31 AM Response to Original message |
115. Smokers are too easy of a target. |
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Mon Mar-30-09 06:58 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. Smokers are too easy of a target. |
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Mon Mar-30-09 07:55 AM Response to Reply #116 |
121. Why do you think the taxes collected never go to smoking cessation programs? |
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Mon Mar-30-09 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
117. I don't see a problem with this. |
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Mon Mar-30-09 09:02 AM Response to Reply #117 |
124. I see a problem with this... |
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #124 |
137. Arguing economic freedom against someone named "KillCapitalism" |
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Mon Mar-30-09 12:50 PM Response to Reply #137 |
140. I do not believe that you always pick the low-hanging fruit first. |
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Tue Mar-31-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #117 |
153. I have a big problem with this. |
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Tue Mar-31-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #117 |
160. Then why just tobacco? How about booze, big macs, sugar etc |
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
132. Sin taxes always affect the poorest in out Nation. |
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Mon Mar-30-09 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
133. I hope they do the same with alcohol. nt |
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Fri Apr-17-09 11:07 AM Response to Reply #133 |
172. That would be good, but 1,000 liquor lobbyists will stop it. |
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Tue Mar-31-09 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
149. treat it like the payroll tax.. |
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Tue Mar-31-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
150. I intend to keep smoking |
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Tue Mar-31-09 06:45 PM Response to Reply #150 |
155. Cool. When I used to smoke, I preferred to roll my own. |
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Tue Mar-31-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
156. Lets place a tax on baby formula, food, diapers, clothing, etc... |
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Tue Mar-31-09 07:32 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. They call that a sales tax |
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Tue Mar-31-09 08:21 PM Response to Reply #157 |
161. Sales tax are instituted by states... |
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Fri Apr-17-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #161 |
176. Hate the fucking "kalashnikitty" |
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Tue Mar-31-09 08:11 PM Response to Original message |
159. Why not add fifty cents tax to every ounce of booze too? |
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Thu Apr-16-09 04:40 PM Response to Reply #159 |
165. How about a tax on tea. ? Smokers need tax dog house companion |
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Thu Apr-16-09 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
164. I quit at one dollar a pack |
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:21 PM Response to Reply #164 |
170. I felt like a schmuck when I realized... |
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Thu Apr-16-09 05:14 PM Response to Original message |
169. It's the American way |
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Fri Apr-17-09 07:11 AM Response to Reply #169 |
171. Ahhhh, the Nicotine Nazis are on a roll... |
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Fri Apr-17-09 02:33 PM Response to Reply #171 |
175. Eliminate the advertising deduction |
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Fri Apr-17-09 03:25 PM Response to Original message |
177. Our government knows smokers are addicted to the nicotine and takes advantage of it |
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