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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:00 AM Original message |
Why is the DLC a dirty acronym on DU? |
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meegbear
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Only to the dean supporters ... |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:07 AM Response to Reply #1 |
20. That's because the Al From and Bruce Reed |
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enki23
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
70. where've you been? |
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HereSince1628
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:01 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. Do you know any Deanees on DU that say annoying DLC is their hobby? |
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
2. I don't demonize the DLC |
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Isome
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
115. "DU is not representative of mainstream Dems" |
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TahitiNut
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Thu Sep-04-03 09:56 PM Response to Reply #115 |
142. Didn't you get the memo? |
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Isome
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Fri Sep-05-03 03:11 AM Response to Reply #142 |
156. No I didn't dammit! |
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onehandle
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
3. They are the greatest evil ever known to man.... |
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redeye
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. The DLC didn't cause the propserity of 1993-2000... |
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onehandle
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. I do now.... |
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redeye
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. Why? |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. They're not on my side |
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meegbear
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Neither am I ... |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. No, not evil |
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salin
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:15 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. no |
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HFishbine
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
8. DLC |
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Brotherjohn
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
9. They were valuable to the left in 1992, but the environment was VERY... |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Prezackly, Brotherjohn |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:22 AM Response to Reply #9 |
31. Okay, given that the country has moved to the right, |
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DrGonzoLives
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:40 AM Response to Reply #31 |
37. In other words |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. Where the political ball lies |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 02:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
78. What's your proposed alternative? |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:16 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. Charge Democratic-ward, where the motivated voters want you to be. |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. "But that trick never works!" |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
93. Name an election in which Democrats had the guts to charge that way. |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:14 PM Response to Reply #93 |
100. Gore ran centrist |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:19 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. A candidate who runs to the center? Yeucch! |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:31 PM Response to Reply #103 |
109. Kennedy ran left? |
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BurtWorm
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:36 PM Response to Reply #109 |
113. Democratic ideas are not extreme. |
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sendero
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
96. the right... |
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fujiyama
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Fri Sep-05-03 03:34 AM Response to Reply #31 |
158. We should try to win this |
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Hell Hath No Fury
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:15 AM Response to Original message |
10. I'm sorry.... |
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Terwilliger
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:20 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. *applause* |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
58. Hear hear!! |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 02:43 PM Response to Reply #58 |
79. Well, |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
89. What better way to convince a candidate... |
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Droopy
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
12. You know, I've wondered about this, too |
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Eloriel
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
102. PNAC-ish fer shure |
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IkeWarnedUs
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:18 PM Response to Reply #102 |
127. more than just PNAC'ish - its a trojan horse filled with PNAC'ers |
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ulysses
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:17 AM Response to Original message |
13. because in the face |
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legin
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. Flame bait |
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ShimokitaJer
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:20 AM Response to Original message |
15. Election 2000, Election 2002, Congress caving in to Bush |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
22. I'll grant you 2002 |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:15 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Compare Lieberman's numbers |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:18 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. So the DLC is Lieberman and Lieberman is the DLC? |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:56 AM Response to Reply #27 |
43. OK, compare Dean's numbers to ANY OTHER candidate's numbers: |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Holy Cow! |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:16 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Continue in denial if you like |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 02:52 PM Response to Reply #53 |
80. Okay, my bad |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:26 PM Response to Reply #80 |
87. Well taken |
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sendero
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:12 PM Response to Reply #87 |
99. yes... |
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Robb
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. "trend"? |
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shatoga
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:51 AM Response to Reply #22 |
42. 1st get into office Then worry about ideological purity |
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ShimokitaJer
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:59 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Gore pandering to center = high Green vote in 2000 |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. This is just blaming the victim |
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ShimokitaJer
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:23 PM Response to Reply #51 |
62. It's not an either-or issue |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:43 PM Response to Reply #62 |
91. None so blind as they that will not see |
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ShimokitaJer
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:52 PM Response to Reply #91 |
116. So we need a candidate who just pretends to be a Republican? |
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bpilgrim
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Thu Sep-04-03 06:01 PM Response to Reply #116 |
136. exactly. when you alow your ENEMY to FRAME THE DEBATE we LOSE. |
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Zhade
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Thu Sep-04-03 07:22 PM Response to Reply #22 |
137. No. |
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eyesroll
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
16. Because Bill Clinton's DLC is not the current DLC |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. I hear you |
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Terwilliger
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
28. thats CRAP!!!!!! The DLC is the same as it was |
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shance
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
17. When you have an organization not willing to confront the reality |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:06 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Quick dose of reality |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:30 AM Response to Reply #19 |
34. Here's another fact Jack |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:45 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. See post #27 |
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bpilgrim
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:57 AM Response to Reply #19 |
45. lol - the FACTS on the ground... |
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RobertFrancisK
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
21. There's good and bad |
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Terwilliger
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
23. you mean the Democratic Leisure Class? |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
30. Perpetuation of myth #1... |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
35. Not a "myth". It's an "exagerration" |
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TahitiNut
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:48 PM Response to Reply #35 |
92. Clinton helped the DLC more than vice versa. |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:53 PM Response to Reply #92 |
94. That is undoubtedly true |
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TahitiNut
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Thu Sep-04-03 09:10 PM Response to Reply #94 |
138. Isn't it a pity ... |
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DrGonzoLives
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
32. Because they consistently move the party to the right |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:42 AM Response to Reply #32 |
38. Unlike those southern Democrats |
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DrGonzoLives
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:48 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. ??? |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:59 AM Response to Reply #41 |
49. The point is |
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ulysses
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:18 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. how do you balance that |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. "Common complaint"?? |
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ulysses
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. "Is this complaint coming from the DLC, or from Dem voters?" |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:43 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. In that case, |
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ulysses
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:45 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. ok |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:23 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. Sorry, but IMO |
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ulysses
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. well |
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TheYellowDog
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:29 AM Response to Original message |
33. I'm not sure but I do know this: |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:57 AM Response to Reply #33 |
44. But... you're describing what most "leftists" want, too! |
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TheYellowDog
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:39 PM Response to Reply #44 |
76. Actually |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. They're a toss-up on working families |
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
86. Health Care and Education ARE Social Issues |
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TahitiNut
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Thu Sep-04-03 09:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
139. That From/Reed "memo" says one thing to me. |
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
36. But they dance so well! |
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shatoga
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
39. a right-wing Trojan Horse |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Wait a minute |
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IrateCitizen
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:58 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. LaRouche???? You've got to be kidding!!! |
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shatoga
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:22 PM Response to Reply #47 |
60. Kill the messenger because truth offends you? |
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ButterflyBlood
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:37 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. how do you know this is truth? |
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shatoga
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:19 PM Response to Reply #64 |
84. truth is SELF EVIDENT |
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
59. sorry but LaRouche is not a credible source |
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
54. Because we like Democrats a lot more than we like Bush. |
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ButterflyBlood
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
61. because the DLC sees things as "our way, or the highway" |
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
68. Because some are under the illusion that Bush can be beat with ... |
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wtmusic
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. See post #43 |
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bpilgrim
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
132. how bout the INTERNET FACTORY? |
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HereSince1628
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Thu Sep-04-03 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
69. Because ELITISM is unDemocratic |
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buddhamama
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Thu Sep-04-03 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
75. they're fine |
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CentristDemocrat
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Thu Sep-04-03 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
81. Because DU is full of extreme liberals. |
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. you just got here |
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CentristDemocrat
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:41 PM Response to Reply #82 |
90. Well, I'm a longtime reader. |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:24 PM Response to Reply #90 |
107. All I can say is,... |
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Terwilliger
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:06 PM Response to Reply #81 |
97. because centrism is going the way of the dodo |
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CentristDemocrat
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
98. There aren't centrist Democrats left? |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:20 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. Sorry, but from what I see within my area of the state |
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CentristDemocrat
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:23 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Will the rank and file be enough to win a national election? We'll see. |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Without the rank and file working their asses off for you, |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
120. Please see post #91 |
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:03 PM Response to Reply #111 |
121. I never said the rank and file are irrelevent. |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:15 PM Response to Reply #104 |
125. Apples and Oranges (or apples and bell-peppers, if you prefer) |
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Terwilliger
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Thu Sep-04-03 09:34 PM Response to Reply #98 |
141. excuse...why are you a Democrat? |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Sep-04-03 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
85. DLC = Democrats Leased to Corporations |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:04 PM Response to Reply #85 |
95. Reality is reality |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:54 PM Response to Reply #95 |
117. "Reality".......... |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:04 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Dean's running in the national election? |
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David Zephyr
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:08 PM Response to Reply #122 |
123. Zephyrbird Did Not Mention the "National Election" |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:20 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. For clarification |
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ShimokitaJer
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:11 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. Dean's already in the center |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:26 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. Liberal Democrats Like You and Me |
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ShimokitaJer
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:38 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. so we need corporate support to topple corporate influence? |
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bpilgrim
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
133. thank GORE he 'INVENTED' the WEB! |
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terryg11
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:16 PM Response to Original message |
101. better than carter? |
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library_max
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:55 PM Response to Reply #101 |
118. Better President, |
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IndianaGreen
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
105. The DLC did not get Clinton elected |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:29 PM Response to Reply #105 |
108. too right, IndianaGreen |
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sangh0
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:35 PM Response to Reply #108 |
112. You are both WAY wrong |
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Zephyrbird
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:46 PM Response to Reply #112 |
114. Sorry, gotta disagree. |
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:33 PM Response to Reply #112 |
130. The Gore I heard speak numerous times from 1984-87 |
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bpilgrim
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:53 PM Response to Reply #112 |
135. true... but STAY TUNED to the PHENOMINAL HELP al gores WEB gives to |
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terryg11
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:33 PM Response to Reply #105 |
110. YYEEAAHH!! |
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bpilgrim
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:51 PM Response to Reply #105 |
134. and if you listen to his speaches he WON on a POPULOUS PLATFORM to boot! |
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Patriot_Spear
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Thu Sep-04-03 04:56 PM Response to Original message |
119. The DLC are DINO sell-outs... |
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Thu Sep-04-03 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
126. because centrism is bullshit |
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mkregel
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Thu Sep-04-03 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
140. The DLC today is a far cry from the DLC that got Clinton elected |
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FlaGranny
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
143. I don't believe |
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Isome
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Fri Sep-05-03 03:05 AM Response to Reply #143 |
155. *whoo hooo* |
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
144. I'll tell you why |
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:38 PM Response to Reply #144 |
145. spare me please |
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:41 PM Response to Reply #145 |
146. Only at DU would I be considered Republican-lite |
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:17 PM Response to Reply #146 |
152. Is that what your right wing friends tell you? |
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:41 PM Response to Reply #145 |
147. 30,000 plus members on DU |
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:02 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. "C" nettle |
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Thu Sep-04-03 10:41 PM Response to Original message |
148. why i hate the DLC |
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:10 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. Two issues |
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:20 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. watch out for those towel snappers |
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Thu Sep-04-03 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
151. When I hear the letters D-L-C |
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Fri Sep-05-03 02:47 AM Response to Reply #151 |
154. DLC means "re-elect Bush" 'cause we are 'republican lite' |
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Fri Sep-05-03 03:26 AM Response to Original message |
157. Now |
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Fri Sep-05-03 03:48 AM Response to Original message |
159. Here's my major problem with the DLC |
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Fri Sep-05-03 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
160. well, let's see...first they lost congress, then the senate, then the WH |
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Fri Sep-05-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. But it's never their fault. |
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