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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:42 PM Original message |
Myths and religion |
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TrogL
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. The distinction between myth and religion |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Most uses of words are seldom of the dictionary def |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. This is why I make my statement thusly |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:12 PM Response to Reply #17 |
35. I love to be in charge the definitions - even better than the axioms |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Please, go look into mythology. |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:20 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. I agree "myth" is can be just a word - indeed positive - but not as used |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:21 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Please remember, Papau |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:28 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. 19 years in the Society of St Vincent -guess that makes me a religious man |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:42 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. "Fairy tales", yes. "Myths", no. |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:49 PM Response to Reply #63 |
71. We agree - indeed the similiar threads in each areas "myths" makes |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
90. You still won't see it |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:41 PM Original message |
No comment |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
100. Probably the first post |
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rini
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:03 PM Response to Reply #90 |
108. Myth |
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TrogL
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Thu Sep-11-03 12:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
117. C. S. Lewis and Christianity |
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Thu Sep-11-03 10:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
115. There are nontheistic religions. |
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vi5
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. Myth is defined as... |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Yeah, it reminds me of that "niggling" controversy |
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chiburb
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #6 |
32. Do you mean "Niggardly"? |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:11 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Ah yes, that's what I meant. :) Thanks! |
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carolinayellowdog
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:56 PM Response to Reply #32 |
80. A DC local govt. official was forced to resign |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Another defintion is |
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damnraddem
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
46. The word 'myth' as used colloquially is seen as negative. |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:01 PM Response to Reply #46 |
99. In my religion, I use the Roman or more accurately the Greek deities |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:23 PM Response to Reply #2 |
88. "logos" and "mythos" are the paired paths to Truth |
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goddess40
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Do you refer to other religion's beliefs as myth? |
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damnraddem
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:28 PM Response to Reply #3 |
58. That's good. But the negative effects will still follow from so doing. |
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dofus
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
4. I only refer to religion as a myth |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Religion cannot be myth |
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ComerPerro
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Ok, thats a good point |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
21. Actually, by defnition |
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ComerPerro
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:00 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. "matrifocal sex cult" |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
29. To me, sex is the highest form of worship |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:14 PM Response to Reply #29 |
36. Sex was an early primary influence on religion |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
49. This is also why ritual use of natural substances is so pervasive |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:43 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. Exactly |
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SlutBunwalla
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
8. Reposting a reading suggestion from the other thread-- |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. The Power of Myth |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Joseph Campbell - "The Power of Myth" plus |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:07 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. We should reclaim the power in teh word myth |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:09 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Woah, that can be taken different ways. ;) |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. Not really so |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:23 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. Ya, I said "central myth to our culture" though. :) |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:25 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. True, but not all accept that within out culture |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. It's not simply a religious myth though. |
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ComerPerro
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
10. If you read the Bible |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. I consider no religions to be myths |
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ComerPerro
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
25. I think that is what I was trying to say |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:24 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. And that is the beauty of myth |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:55 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. You consider |
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ComerPerro
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:59 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. I don't just attack religion for the hell of it |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. To us it comes off as myth |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:00 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. I can see where stating religion is a myth can be offensive |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
92. Both are equally offensive |
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Mandate My Ass
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Tue Sep-09-03 05:18 PM Response to Reply #92 |
106. My "god" resides in each living human being |
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greyl
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
28. So basically, understand your opponents lack of knowledge and |
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Bridget Burke
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. "Orthodoxy is my doxie.... |
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Blue_Chill
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
13. Thank You Az |
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Brian Sweat
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
16. You will not convince someone period. |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:01 PM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Stating that gods are myths by defnition is not stating that they ar wrong |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:05 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. The effect on the listener |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:15 PM Response to Reply #30 |
38. But myth is not a negative word. |
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bloom
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:38 PM Response to Reply #38 |
61. you really are being stubborn |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:44 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Apples to oranges |
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bloom
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:48 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. that may be |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
75. Not really |
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bloom
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:06 PM Response to Reply #75 |
83. yes |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:49 PM Response to Reply #83 |
96. I disagree |
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bloom
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:21 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. lets look at the Thesaurus Terms |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:24 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. I still disagree |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 08:23 PM Response to Reply #103 |
111. I would agree with you had I stated |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
76. It really doesn't matter if you are right |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:58 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. The problem is that a kneejerk reaction |
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Muddleoftheroad
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:42 PM Response to Reply #81 |
93. Too bad you don't try to understand it |
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Solomon
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
39. Too bad that those who would have you respect their beliefs |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:22 PM Response to Reply #39 |
50. A reasonable approach - indeed the approach taken by God believers |
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Brian Sweat
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
89. You are correct. |
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bloom
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Tue Sep-09-03 01:57 PM Response to Original message |
19. C.S. Lewis -from the essay "Myth Became Fact" (1944) |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:17 PM Response to Reply #19 |
42. And Lewis is correct - in context "myth" is not a putdown |
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bloom
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:26 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Oh, I understand what is going on |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:27 PM Response to Reply #42 |
56. Myth does not go to "provablity" |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:43 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. "provablity" vs "verification" - versus |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:51 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. Anything is possible |
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chiburb
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:41 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. Excellent post, Bloom... |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. Not really "Sunday practices" |
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chiburb
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:09 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. I was going to say Halloween... |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:43 PM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Nahhhh, Samhain is my favorite Holy Day of the year! |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:50 PM Response to Reply #85 |
97. BTW, I forgot to say |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
37. How should an unbeliever refer to elements of another's religion? |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:21 PM Response to Reply #37 |
48. ?their beliefs??"others beliefs", "your beliefs" |
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damnraddem
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
40. I agree that whether one is a believer or a nonbeliever, ... |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:18 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. I agree - and you must be correct if I agree! :-) |
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carolinayellowdog
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. The problem is when myth is taken as history or science |
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:07 PM Response to Reply #54 |
84. Well said "carolinayellowdog" |
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
101. The intermingling of myth and history is built into Christianity |
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carolinayellowdog
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. But the specific mix varies continually |
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Thu Sep-11-03 12:17 PM Response to Reply #105 |
116. I don't see that degree of flexibility in Christianity |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 04:14 PM Response to Reply #54 |
102. I think Star Trek used a term that applies to Jesus |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
60. To Recap: Speak with the language of your opponent & don't be a dick! |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:47 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. (rules only apply to atheists) - right? |
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Blue_Chill
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
73. Wrong |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:56 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. But that's a two-way street |
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Blue_Chill
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:39 PM Response to Reply #79 |
91. Not our fault |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:44 PM Response to Reply #91 |
95. I am not an "anti-theist" |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:54 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. No. |
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reprobate
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:46 PM Response to Original message |
67. I think Stephen Roberts said it best: |
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Az
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
70. Not to drop names |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:51 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. Impressed !! But "dismiss" and "understand" are forever projects! |
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Tue Sep-09-03 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
78. Personally, I think these kinds of debates.... |
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papau
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:10 PM Response to Reply #78 |
86. The context is everything - political correctness means not being an ass |
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:20 PM Response to Reply #78 |
87. To answer your question, yes... |
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Walt Starr
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Tue Sep-09-03 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
98. If any have taken offense to any of the statements I have made,... |
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TahitiNut
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Tue Sep-09-03 06:55 PM Response to Reply #98 |
107. Sounds like mythongeny to me. |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
109. ... |
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Tue Sep-09-03 07:23 PM Response to Original message |
110. Someone once said |
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Tue Sep-09-03 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
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Thu Sep-11-03 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
113. This is the worst part about DU. |
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Thu Sep-11-03 10:33 AM Response to Reply #113 |
114. sometimes, but not here |
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Thu Sep-11-03 01:23 PM Response to Reply #114 |
119. I wasnt condemning the thread. |
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Thu Sep-11-03 05:08 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. fair enough |
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Thu Sep-11-03 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
118. Maybe we should go a layer deeper |
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Fri Sep-12-03 01:45 AM Response to Original message |
121. I want to know God's thoughts... |
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Fri Sep-12-03 03:02 AM Response to Original message |
122. Here's my take |
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