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old blue (225 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 01:31 PM Original message |
Sgrena's driver survived, right???? |
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qanda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. I agree |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:01 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Exactly |
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AndrewJacksonFaction (471 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
51. Not really. I read somewhere............... |
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amber dog democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 01:43 PM Response to Original message |
2. no they would kill the passengers and any witnesses first |
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murray hill farm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I think i did hear that... |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 02:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Here's a link to the missing car report |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
28. Why assume the driver knows more than the passengers? |
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pnutchuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes, and denies that he sped or ignored warning shots. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 01:52 PM Response to Original message |
5. Yep. That's the story I heard too. All the shots hit the back seat. The |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
6. They are trained to shoot at the engine block to stop the car. |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Isn't that what they did? |
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Cocoa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I thought he got shot |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. The agent died from a gunshot wound to the temple |
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candle_bright (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Okay |
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theHandpuppet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:40 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. No, not exactly |
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sundancekid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
9. yup, doesn't pass the smell test; also, more details to add to your point |
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SodoffBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:13 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Who was the driver? An Italian? |
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sundancekid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
21. driver was Italian based on all reports where he and others were |
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SodoffBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Surveillance helicopter? |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:21 AM Response to Reply #11 |
46. Strange indeed |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #9 |
38. I agree |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
47. Nothing would surprise me personally |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 08:19 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Well the freepers aren't |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
45. Curious how they managed to hit Calipari in the BACK of the head |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
14. Car was moving at 25-30 mph |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:32 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. And the speed of 25-30 m.p.h. can be proven how? |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. So you suspect Sgrena is lying then? |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Is that the question I asked? |
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tkmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:21 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. In a way, yes it is what you asked |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:57 PM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Actually, I don't believe either version 100%. |
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neweurope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:39 AM Response to Reply #30 |
50. So far you seem only to be questioning Sgrenas version, though. |
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chlamor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:50 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. "We were driving slowly, about 40-50km/h (25-30 mph)." |
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Cuban_Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:01 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. That's exactly what I'm talking about: "He said, she said" |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
23. As far as evidence goes |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 05:47 PM Response to Reply #23 |
34. Ironic, isn't it. A long, empty stretch |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:10 AM Response to Reply #23 |
37. Maybe they took it somewhere |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Excluding the victims testimony and wounds |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
48. They could easily |
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Frederik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. The question is... |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. who has the most credibility? |
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sharman (143 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 03:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
52. Two reasons |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 06:14 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. I recall reading in several accounts |
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fooj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 03:59 PM Response to Original message |
20. The mere fact that anyone survived 300-400 rounds is amazing. |
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RoeBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. So who do we think was the target |
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ananda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 04:43 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. truth |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. "what could have stopped them from finishing her off" getting caught |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 05:43 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. I think if we cared about 'perception' we wouldn't |
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bpilgrim (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Mar-06-05 10:01 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. we care a great deal about perception |
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Binka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:38 AM Response to Reply #27 |
53. I Think BOTH Of Them Were Targets |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Maybe |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:47 AM Response to Original message |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:57 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. He's alive |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
41. What is the US story? |
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OrangeCountyDemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 01:05 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Ummmm...... |
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NightOwwl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
54. wrong thread n/t |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Mar-07-05 02:58 PM Response to Original message |
55. Makes sense to me. eom |
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