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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:40 PM Original message |
I am (still) angry at fundies. I don't like them. |
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wookie294
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
1. I've never been a fundy, but I share your anger |
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Flammable Materials
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. I was one once too. A major league asshole fundy. |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:47 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So, how do you feel about fundies? |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
23. Ooh, Wisconsin Synod! |
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Bill McBlueState
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
71. lutherans |
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Lydia Leftcoast
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Sun Apr-17-05 03:49 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. The ELCA are the mostly liberal Lutherans |
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RPM
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Sun Apr-17-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
116. dont let the Evangelical in the name fool you |
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
99. Yeah, I was Missouri Synod. |
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kliljedahl
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:41 PM Response to Reply #2 |
40. DAMN!!! They really believe that shit? |
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Zenlitened
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:47 PM Response to Original message |
3. Plenty of reason to be angry at the fundies. Disgusted by them, too. |
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jody
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. Anger never solves problems. Focus on facts like unemployment, |
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Zenlitened
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:04 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. But fundies don't give a damn about any of those things. |
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jody
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. I have many fundys that are close friends and they care very much |
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Zenlitened
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Why, just yesterday, as a matter of fact. |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #10 |
24. All my life, actually. :) |
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kliljedahl
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. Don't confuse Fundies with Evangelicals |
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Jamastiene
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Sat Apr-16-05 11:27 PM Response to Reply #10 |
49. Do you know the meaning of the term |
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
56. Oh are we talking about the 5% again? |
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Jamastiene
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Tue Apr-19-05 02:02 AM Response to Reply #56 |
129. Good one. eom |
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
57. Oh are we talking about the 5% again? |
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Tux
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Sun Apr-17-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #10 |
66. Last Christmas |
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donco6
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
90. Really? |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. I agree with you. Anger isn't bad in and of itself. |
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jives
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:19 AM Response to Reply #20 |
63. That's exactly right |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:22 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. Thanks. :) |
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hatrack
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Sun Apr-17-05 11:02 PM Response to Reply #20 |
118. You remind me of Winston Smith's girlfriend in "1984", Julia |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. Exactly |
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Taxloss
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
72. Well said. I winced at the "even atheists" remark. |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
76. Perhaps you are overly sensitive. Read my post again because |
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Taxloss
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. I was more offended by your implication that this "golden rule" |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:52 PM Response to Reply #77 |
80. Why do you think I quoted the three secular humanist manifestos? |
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Taxloss
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #80 |
86. I did read the poster. |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:57 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. If atheism has a system of beliefs, then it is properly a religion. |
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neebob
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:05 PM Response to Reply #92 |
93. The belief that no god exists is hardly a system |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #93 |
94. But groups have proposed systems of belief that did not depend |
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neebob
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Mon Apr-18-05 07:53 AM Response to Reply #94 |
121. Okay, but atheism will still not be a belief system |
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jody
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Tue Apr-19-05 04:22 AM Response to Reply #121 |
134. OK, if that's your opinion, but for others it can be a system if beliefs. |
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Taxloss
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #92 |
97. I have no "system" of beliefs. |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:05 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. You are correct that broadly defined, "communism" and "capitalism" |
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Taxloss
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
108. I can assemble an individual set of beliefs, but does that |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:57 PM Response to Reply #108 |
113. I do accept that your moral universe is |
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Taxloss
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Sun Apr-17-05 09:06 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. You too. Goodnight. |
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Ladyhawk
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Mon Apr-18-05 09:13 PM Response to Reply #92 |
127. Not all atheists necessary ascribe to the Humanist Manifesto. |
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jody
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Tue Apr-19-05 04:28 AM Response to Reply #127 |
135. And belief in god(s) is not a system of beliefs but it can be the basis |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
74. What's you problem with my "even atheists" statement that some |
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Zenlitened
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Mon Apr-18-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #74 |
122. I think your question was answered quite nicely by Taxloss... |
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jody
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Tue Apr-19-05 04:21 AM Response to Reply #122 |
133. My question was to you, not someone else. n/t |
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Zenlitened
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Tue Apr-19-05 07:50 AM Response to Reply #133 |
137. C'mon, you can do better than that. |
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jody
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Tue Apr-19-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. Is that the best you can do? n/t |
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Zenlitened
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Tue Apr-19-05 06:59 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. "I'm rubber, you're glue..." |
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Pushed To The Left
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:11 PM Response to Reply #5 |
105. Economic populism might be a good way |
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jody
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Sun Apr-17-05 09:11 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. I agree. Eventually many of the most narrow minded Christians will |
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impeachthescoundrel
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
6. Although I have never been a fundie |
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Fridays Child
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Sat Apr-16-05 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
7. Your anger is understandable. But what caused you to reject that mindset? |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. It's a really long story. In fact, I have a deal with someone to write... |
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applegrove
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. So you were a militant islamist? n/t |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:19 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Nope. I was a militant Christian fundamentalist. |
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applegrove
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Sat Apr-16-05 08:47 PM Response to Reply #17 |
43. Fundies are vulnerable to following the wrong compass. We have |
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Jamastiene
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Sun Apr-17-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #43 |
53. Actually, Whoopi Goldberg |
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:57 PM Response to Reply #53 |
102. I never saw that |
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CountAllVotes
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. new group: Recovering Fundies |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Seriously? Or are you proposing such? n/t |
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. no you might like to start one |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Very much. I was part of an ex-fundy forum, but it wasn't very |
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Jamastiene
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Sat Apr-16-05 11:55 PM Response to Reply #12 |
51. kick |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
78. Yes, I've been a victim of "spiritual abuse" too. It seems to go along |
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Jamastiene
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Tue Apr-19-05 02:24 AM Response to Reply #78 |
130. I got the term on several different web sites I found online. |
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HockeyMom
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
13. Osama Exploits Islam |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:18 PM Response to Reply #13 |
32. If they |
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Pushed To The Left
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:24 PM Response to Reply #13 |
111. Separation of church and state |
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Joey Liberal
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
19. Fundies think they are better than everyone else |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. I have to agree. Having been there, I truly know. |
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NAO
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:32 PM Response to Original message |
22. Essential Strategic Background Info on these Dangerous Extremists |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:39 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. When my mother said that the best form of government was a theocracy, |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. I saw that sometime last year |
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
26. I'm a Christian but I don't think I'm a fundie. I'm way too open minded. |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Same here |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. It must be hard for those who are non-fundy Christians. |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. That's exactly what a fundy is. :( |
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bamacrat
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Sat Apr-16-05 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
27. You should not be angry with yourself, you are a leader. |
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Beam Me Up
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Sat Apr-16-05 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
28. I was raised by fundies but never drank the kool-aid |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Your story sounds very similar to mine, Beam Me Up. |
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Sat Apr-16-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. I wish you the best... |
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Jamastiene
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Sun Apr-17-05 12:40 AM Response to Reply #28 |
52. Our stories sound similar. |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
81. Fundamentalist schools are especially destructive, in my opinion. |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
83. I agree |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
79. LOL...when I read your phrase "raised by fundies" it reminds me of |
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Mon Apr-18-05 02:27 PM Response to Reply #79 |
123. Indeed, they seem like another species, alright. |
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Ladyhawk
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Mon Apr-18-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Woah. Between you, Jamastiene and me, we'd have one hellacious story! n/t |
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seabeyond
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
31. an x smoker has more venom than any non smoker |
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Ladyhawk
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. I don't know. I don't like being around smokers and I've never smoked. :) |
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seabeyond
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Sat Apr-16-05 09:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. ya well girl, just had a big to do with niece and my family |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:24 PM Response to Reply #38 |
84. I don't like smoke either |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
37. I was a fundie for a couple of years... |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #37 |
87. Big hugs, Dr_eldritch. I love your posts. |
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The Doctor.
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:51 PM Response to Reply #87 |
100. Wow... Thanks. I'll always take a hug from a Ladyhawk... |
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RevCheesehead
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Sat Apr-16-05 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
39. Your anger is a natural reaction to having been spiritually abused. |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #39 |
95. Thanks, RevCheesehead. |
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RevCheesehead
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:37 PM Response to Reply #95 |
112. Fundamentalism is an inherently dysfunctional system. |
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neebob
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Sat Apr-16-05 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
42. I have a similar problem, only it started with Mormonism |
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neebob
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:32 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. I just want to clarify my point, which is |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #70 |
98. Your situation sounds similar to mine. |
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neebob
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Mon Apr-18-05 01:37 AM Response to Reply #98 |
119. That is quite similar |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #42 |
96. I had a lifetime of brainwashing that included... |
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Sat Apr-16-05 09:21 PM Response to Original message |
45. Have you all seen the movie |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:29 PM Response to Reply #45 |
85. I've heard of it |
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Sat Apr-16-05 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
46. I have never been a repuke and I detest the very ground they walk on. |
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Jamastiene
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Sat Apr-16-05 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
48. For those of us who |
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Mr_Spock
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Sun Apr-17-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #48 |
65. Wow, truly amazing. Thanks for posting! |
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Jamastiene
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Tue Apr-19-05 03:21 AM Response to Reply #65 |
132. Thank you |
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #48 |
91. Oh, my God! I had heard of stuff like that, and I always wondered |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #48 |
101. ((((((((((((((((((((((((((( Jamastiene ))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) |
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Jamastiene
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Tue Apr-19-05 02:53 AM Response to Reply #101 |
131. I would love nothing more than to do just that... |
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thinkingwoman
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Sat Apr-16-05 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. Forgive yourself |
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R. A. Fuqua
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Sun Apr-17-05 01:39 AM Response to Original message |
54. hey don't beat yourself up. |
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Mabel Dodge
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:09 AM Response to Original message |
55. I grew up in an alcoholic home |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #55 |
117. In her book, Leaving the Fold, Marlene Winell equates adult children |
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Sun Apr-17-05 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
58. Hey LadyHawk - I'll Be Your Friend - I Have Nothing But Respect For |
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rucky
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Sun Apr-17-05 03:21 AM Response to Original message |
59. Forgive yourself...then MOVE ON |
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DistressedAmerican
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Sun Apr-17-05 03:44 AM Response to Original message |
60. I'll Be Angry Until They Leave ME The Fuck Alone. |
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Crunchy Frog
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:27 AM Response to Original message |
61. I don't think you should be angry at yourself for having been a fundie. |
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Sun Apr-17-05 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
62. Stop torturing yourself |
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Mr_Spock
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Sun Apr-17-05 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
64. "toxic, garbage-filled cesspool of irrational beliefs" - thanks, beautiful |
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Sun Apr-17-05 10:51 AM Response to Original message |
67. Hate 'em and all they stand for! and can end this sentence in a |
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LearnedHand
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Sun Apr-17-05 11:10 AM Response to Original message |
68. Resoning with them is probably not the important part |
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Ladyhawk
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
106. Wow! Thanks for sharing, LearnedHand. |
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LearnedHand
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Sun Apr-17-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
69. Nominated for "Greatest" |
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:01 PM Response to Original message |
82. I saw Lyndon Larouche talking about this on TV |
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FreedomAngel82
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #82 |
88. Exactly |
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Sun Apr-17-05 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
103. Why defend hypocrites? |
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
107. Dear Ladyhawk, I hope you'll see this... |
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Mon Apr-18-05 02:41 PM Response to Reply #107 |
124. Your statement reminds me of a wise old |
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scarletwoman
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Mon Apr-18-05 04:53 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. Well, I'm not QUITE as old as Yoda... |
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understandinglife
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
109. Focus that anger on MNA day, May 2 2005..... |
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spooky3
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Sun Apr-17-05 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
110. Have you read Losing Faith in Faith by Dan Barker? |
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Ladyhawk
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Mon Apr-18-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #110 |
128. Yes, it's a great book! It totally trashes fundy beliefs with unrelenting |
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Mon Apr-18-05 02:44 AM Response to Original message |
120. Because like "the alien", they've implanted themselves in to us |
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La Lioness Priyanka
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Tue Apr-19-05 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
136. we should be angry. they take pride in calling us immoral. |
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