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blondeatlast
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:25 PM Original message |
How many children of unmarried males is too many? By how many women? |
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. There are plenty |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Fat chance that will happen |
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dsc
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Some places have tried |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
18. Thanks for the compliment |
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barb162
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Thanks for reminding me of all those bad, bad things back in |
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cmd
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. The fifties certainly were not the way they are portrayed |
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dsc
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
30. I admit to having no memory of the 50's but they sure don't sound all |
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kestrel91316
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Sun Jul-24-05 12:10 AM Response to Reply #18 |
115. We won't go back. Never doubt the power of determined women. |
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shanti
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
139. we sure as hell won't go back! |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #8 |
107. That's horrible. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. the key here is support |
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cmd
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. There is a lot more to parenting than child support money |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. that is very true |
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blondeatlast
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
15. Precisely, but the stigma rarely exists for men. |
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PA Democrat
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:39 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. I would guess that any scumbag who refuses to pay child support |
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ayeshahaqqiqa
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:49 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. which may or may not be generally known |
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Maru Kitteh
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
72. You'd be AMAZED at the number of men who |
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okieinpain
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #72 |
92. saw a cop show were they were arresting a guy for no child |
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Maru Kitteh
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:54 PM Response to Reply #92 |
108. Or hey! By all means, get married BUT |
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okieinpain
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Sun Jul-24-05 03:47 AM Response to Reply #108 |
124. go figure. I really don't understand the mentality. |
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cmd
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:29 PM Response to Original message |
3. Excellent questions, blondatlast |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
4. If the USSC nominee supported forced castration for men that don't |
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mongo
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. How about execution for women who use drugs while pregnant? |
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hfojvt
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. so do I, but that was not it |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:47 PM Response to Reply #28 |
75. There are deadbeat moms. |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
111. Thank you. |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. Bullshit. Using an anology to point out this pro-life crap |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Don't bother with this one. |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
113. Yeah... "They" couldn't ever figure out |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sun Jul-24-05 01:11 AM Response to Reply #113 |
118. Not bad |
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The Doctor.
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Sun Jul-24-05 01:41 AM Response to Reply #118 |
122. Dishes, laundry, and I'll raise you one hands-and-knees carpet scrubbing.. |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sun Jul-24-05 02:18 AM Response to Reply #122 |
123. I was carpet scrubbing too! |
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The Doctor.
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Sun Jul-24-05 08:39 PM Response to Reply #123 |
130. Funny thing that... |
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Misunderestimator
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:59 PM Response to Reply #23 |
43. LOL... vitriol.... LOL |
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hfojvt
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #4 |
26. how about just a vasectomy? |
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nothingshocksmeanymore
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Excuse me but a pregnancy taken to term can KILL you |
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hfojvt
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #31 |
47. I thought I conceded that |
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Bunny
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
55. It's too fucking bad that your asshole friend has to pay money |
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hfojvt
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Sat Jul-23-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. in the real world |
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Bunny
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Sat Jul-23-05 03:59 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. You are factually wrong, at least in Pennsylvania. |
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hfojvt
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. you are talking about the way a court or some statistician |
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Bunny
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:52 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Duh - the courts DO decide this, that's why I'm using the example. |
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shanti
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:52 PM Response to Reply #55 |
142. thank you!!!! |
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Yupster
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
82. There's a guy near me |
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lastliberalintexas
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Mon Jul-25-05 10:04 AM Response to Reply #82 |
148. Then he needs to speak with an attorney about a malpractice action |
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Maru Kitteh
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Sun Jul-24-05 12:25 AM Response to Reply #26 |
116. If you were looking for someone to go ballistic on you I'll be your daisy |
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shanti
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #26 |
141. check this out |
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napi21
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
5. Oh, I'm sure he does exist, and he's probably not the exception. |
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blondeatlast
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:34 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It's a copycat thread. It's all about semantics, really. |
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raccoon
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
13. I'd think after ONE the guy should've learned to take |
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proud2BlibKansan
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. One |
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cynatnite
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
10. My daughter's boyfriend |
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Nikia
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
14. Unfortunately, I know a couple of said guys |
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barb162
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. I have seen that blaming the woman routine |
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hfojvt
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
59. "I don't know about our side or their side or any of that crap. |
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mcscajun
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
17. They are everywhere... |
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mainer
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. Why do women get taken in by these guys? |
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Karenina
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
37. A stiff cock KNOWS NO CONSCIENCE. |
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barb162
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:33 PM Response to Reply #37 |
54. poetic n/t |
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CrispyQ
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Sat Jul-23-05 12:52 PM Response to Original message |
21. Wow, you know my cousin Gary? |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:05 PM Response to Original message |
25. well...if there was no child support contract before sex |
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ismnotwasm
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
29. Let's see-- A relative.. |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
33. Well, it would be perfectly ok for women to judge the guy |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. I agree with you on that |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Thank you. We as a society will only be living up to |
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Yupster
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. I think that is the fairest way |
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Nevernose
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:05 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. How is that argument any different from pro-lifers telling a woman |
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Nevernose
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. If you want the same rights as women, go get yourself a uterus |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. lets turn it around: "if you want a man's rights, go get yourself a penis" |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #58 |
67. you sound the the perfect advocate |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
68. here's the problem: no matter how much you would like to |
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Yupster
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Sat Jul-23-05 08:01 PM Response to Reply #68 |
94. I think that is the answer |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. if you have hetero intercourse, pregnancy is ALWAYS a possibility |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:07 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. that argument is no different from the pro-life argument against women /nt |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:11 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. bullshit |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
50. my argument is that both men and women should be free to |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. do you understand basic biology? |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Of course I understand biology, |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. no, i don't think you get it |
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mixedview
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:58 PM Response to Reply #57 |
61. "you and/or your partner decides to terminate" |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:00 PM Response to Reply #61 |
64. men DO have that right |
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dsc
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Sun Jul-24-05 08:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
132. I find it hard to believe that you would support men not paying |
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noiretextatique
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Mon Jul-25-05 12:01 AM Response to Reply #132 |
144. i know several men who do not support their children |
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Mon Jul-25-05 06:46 AM Response to Reply #144 |
145. I can see your point to some degree |
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noiretextatique
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Mon Jul-25-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #144 |
147. in my sister's case |
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Yupster
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:43 PM Response to Reply #61 |
87. "you and your partner decide to terminate pregnancy" |
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. LOL! Nice try, mixedview! |
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:04 PM Response to Reply #33 |
45. I agree on the support issue. n/t |
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bloom
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:34 PM Response to Reply #33 |
102. "some type of contract" |
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
35. Oh, I know one far worse than that. |
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. I love how the other thread got locked aft 250 posts |
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bloom
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
41. It' something else... |
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Misunderestimator
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Sat Jul-23-05 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
42. Oh yeah... I'm pretty sure he exists. |
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
56. Now, see, I think that the first time a man fathers a child out of wedlock |
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:58 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. And the woman Sterilized? |
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Bunny
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:22 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. No, the women only get sterilized when they've had "too many" |
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Sat Jul-23-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
60. My ex abandoned the family in 1996. Left me with 3 kids. Not a dime of |
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noiretextatique
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:10 PM Response to Reply #60 |
66. not neccessarily |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:01 PM Response to Reply #60 |
77. Yes you would have. The courts are bias to favor women... |
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Bucky
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:48 PM Response to Reply #77 |
140. I'm also a single, fulltime dad without child support. The only difference |
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Sat Jul-23-05 04:57 PM Response to Original message |
71. I had a roommate in college who was like this. |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
73. How many women claimed to be on the pill... |
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blondeatlast
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:10 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. Apparently you didn't see the thread I'm copycatting. |
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #78 |
83. The assumption only men fail their children. |
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blondeatlast
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:52 PM Response to Reply #83 |
93. What part of copycat failed you? |
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #93 |
106. Sorry , not after you just the theme of the post. |
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
79. My first husband tried that old excuse "she lied to me" |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
85. Everyone want's someone to blame. |
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. who's playing a victim? |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #88 |
98. no one is playing... |
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:37 PM Response to Reply #79 |
86. . |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. And for some strange reason.... |
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Sat Jul-23-05 06:46 PM Response to Original message |
74. 0-1 is about the limit. How stupid are these men and women anyway??? n/t |
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blondeatlast
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
80. For those who are unaware, this is a copycat thread. The original had |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:49 PM Response to Reply #80 |
91. Apparently a lot of people aren't aware of that. n/t |
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Sat Jul-23-05 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
89. I like this question better: |
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:19 PM Response to Reply #89 |
97. It is different |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #97 |
104. That qualify's the theme of the post... |
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:00 PM Response to Reply #104 |
109. I just think it's disingenuous |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:39 PM Response to Reply #109 |
112. It is more common that men abandon children... |
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LWolf
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Sun Jul-24-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #97 |
125. True; |
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bloom
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Mon Jul-25-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #125 |
152. You make a lot of good points |
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LWolf
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Mon Jul-25-05 06:08 PM Response to Reply #152 |
155. Those are all good points, as well. |
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greblc
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:24 PM Response to Reply #89 |
99. I agree. |
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Mnemosyne
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Sat Jul-23-05 08:07 PM Response to Original message |
95. My grandson's "father" has 3, maybe 4 and |
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Sat Jul-23-05 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
96. Being a parent is more than sending a check.. |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:43 PM Response to Reply #96 |
105. I might disagree... |
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ScreamingMeemie
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
100. My brother just had one...by one woman. But, if he had three by three |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. Some people have 'class' all the way to the core... |
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The Doctor.
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Sat Jul-23-05 10:33 PM Response to Original message |
101. That he is unmarried is irrelevant... |
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Sat Jul-23-05 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
110. Excellent thread |
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Sun Jul-24-05 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
114. Damn you women are a venomous lot... |
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Sun Jul-24-05 01:07 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. What if the man didn't want to have a child? |
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Sun Jul-24-05 01:26 AM Response to Reply #117 |
120. Well then try a condom... |
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:06 PM Response to Reply #120 |
136. That is fair enough |
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noiretextatique
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Sun Jul-24-05 05:59 PM Response to Reply #117 |
127. sex causes pregnancy |
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mixedview
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Sun Jul-24-05 08:53 PM Response to Reply #127 |
134. Yes it can - I guess women don't need abortion rights, since you all |
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noiretextatique
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Sun Jul-24-05 09:39 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. basic biology |
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mixedview
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #135 |
137. I resent anyone who wants to force me into parenthood. /nt |
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noiretextatique
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Sun Jul-24-05 11:57 PM Response to Reply #137 |
143. either get a blowup doll, or become more acquainted with your hand eom |
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Hello_Kitty
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Sun Jul-24-05 01:30 AM Response to Reply #114 |
121. Dude, It's a COPYCAT thread for Christ's sake! |
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Mon Jul-25-05 07:20 AM Response to Reply #121 |
146. Nice try... |
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Mon Jul-25-05 03:25 PM Response to Reply #146 |
153. I think you meant this reply for the OP |
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Sun Jul-24-05 01:22 AM Response to Original message |
119. I have 5 kids by 3 women |
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Sun Jul-24-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #119 |
126. You are not a deadbeat - don't let anyone make you think you are. |
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Sun Jul-24-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #126 |
128. some men, like my deadbeat brother-in-law, are assholes |
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Sun Jul-24-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #126 |
129. Men have every right to choose whether they become parents. |
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Sun Jul-24-05 08:48 PM Response to Reply #129 |
131. Oh, the irony ! |
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Sun Jul-24-05 10:22 PM Response to Reply #131 |
138. You're right mixedview |
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Mon Jul-25-05 10:12 AM Response to Reply #131 |
149. I am glad to see that you are not irony-impaired. |
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Mon Jul-25-05 03:38 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. frankly...i don't understand the outrage |
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Sun Jul-24-05 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
133. Yeah, because that's just wrong and somebody oughta do something! |
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Mon Jul-25-05 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
150. It's not a matter of number. |
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Mon Jul-25-05 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
151. Whether it's too many abortions or too many kids while on welfare |
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Mon Jul-25-05 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
156. one is one too many |
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