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Thu Sep-15-05 09:25 AM
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Should Democrats make public call to repeal all the Bush taxcuts? |
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Or would that be too much of a gamble for our Party to take? Not that it would be the right thing to do but that we might lose some votes. In my opinion, we should say it loud and often. Of course, the right-wingers will say their usual crap but sometimes you need to speak the truth and not wring your hands worrying so much about the consequences. But this is an issue that reflects perfectly the problem with the Democratic Party leaders. They don't have any courage or backbone.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:26 AM
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:26 AM
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2. you give the dems leadership too much credit w/ a few exceptions nt |
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:27 AM
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3. YES!!!! This nation is in the midst of a budgetary crisis |
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all tax cuts MUST be repealed for the good of the nation. To not do so is fiscally irresponsible.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:30 AM
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4. yes-and quit the Iraq war-back to fiscal sanity. |
kentuck
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:30 AM
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5. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. |
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I would love to see the Party take this stance but they probably have a polls showing that a "tax increase" would be a negative in the next election?
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:31 AM
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6. According to the NYT/CBS poll (today) |
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It would fly with wings if it were couched in terms of Hurricane Katrina relief/NO re-build.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:32 AM
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7. NO!!! Who was the last candidate to be elected who said he'd |
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increase taxes? The answer is NEVER! There haven't been any! Many have done it after they were elected, but NEVER before!
You can call it lying, hiding the truth, hiding from reality...whatever. But you have to face reality! Even lower and middle class people liked that increase in the child credit, and the few other crumbs they were given.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:33 AM
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8. None of them have the stomach for it |
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It won't happen until Wolfie orders us to do it. Then we can gain official third world status. We'll live to see that happen. Draconian cuts in every social program.
The scumbags of the right would run on that for entire generation. The people's interests are secondary to most of our current crop of politicos.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:33 AM
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9. Well, Kerry made a call to repeal a lot of them. |
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The question is whether it helped or hurt his cause.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:41 AM
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10. We should make a public call to repeal everything |
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that the Beast has visited upon us. He was never elected. He is an occupying power tyrannizing the United States of America.
We should call for every damned thing he's done to be repealed. It's just a shame that so much of it is permanent.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:42 AM
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11. Yes, why have welfare for the richest 1%? (nt) |
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Edited on Thu Sep-15-05 09:42 AM by FSogol
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kentuck
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:43 AM
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12. So we're back to framing and marketing... |
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The interest on the extra $3 trillion dollars in debt is a tax increase. The $3.00 per gallon on gasoline is a tax increase. The tens of billion we must now spend to rebuild the levees and the city of New Orleans is a tax increase. Much is this is due to the transfer of our tax dollars to the wealthiest. Their argument about creating more wealth and trickling down has proven to be a lie. We now have 9 million more people in poverty under this Adminstration. That is a tax on all of us.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:44 AM
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13. We should advocate a windfall profits tax on the oil companies |
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Make it retroactive to when gouging began.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:46 AM
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I would think that it would be a principled stand to take, and could be sold to the public fairly easily and clearly.
The deficits are out of control. We had a war and a natural disaster we didn't anticipate. The coffers are empty, and the economic growth and boom that was supposed to follow the tax cuts didn't happen. Therefore, it's time to cancel the "experiment" and get the finances of gov't secure.
It's particularly opportune, since there are now even Repubs who admit that pork barrel spending has INCREASED under Republican majorities, and even moreso in the last 5 years.
So, the tax cut plan isn't working to grow the economy; the Repubs can't control spending; so, we need more revenue. The Professor
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:56 AM
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But many Democrats, including some here, think it would be a death knell to propose a "tax increase". And if we permitted them to paint it as such, then it might hurt the Party. However, if they cannot sell it now, they could not sell anything.
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:59 AM
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17. If They Can't Sell It Now, . . . |
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. . .they couldn't sell water in the desert. It's the absolutely perfect time. Wounded prez. Congress with <32% approval. Economic approval of the administration less than 35%. There can be no better time. The Professor
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Thu Sep-15-05 09:59 AM
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16. yes, but only as a first step . . . |
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then they should demand increased tax rates for those earning over a certain amount (say, two hundred grand) . . .
and they should demand reforms that will result in corporations paying their fair share . . . such as heavily penalizing those that take their operations offshore to avoid US taxes, but expect to keep doing business here with no restrictions or regulations . . .
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Thu Sep-15-05 10:05 AM
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18. Good suggestions and add to that, give back the pork like the |
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Alaska bridges to nowhere. They're taking heat on that one already. Need to press Dems to start attacking the pork and oil that MOST Americans, dems and repugs, are already pissed about!!
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Thu Sep-15-05 11:49 AM
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19. pork and oil . . . sounds like a Repug dinner menu . . . n/t :) |
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Thu Sep-15-05 12:16 PM
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20. Thank you!! I needed a good chuckle this morning!! |
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Thu Sep-15-05 12:19 PM
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21. Of course. Should have already happened. And, press for 'windfall tax' ... |
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... immediate application to the petroleum industry and companies like Halliburton, Bechtel, Blackwater, ...
Peace.
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