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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:02 AM Original message |
Question for Middle Aged DUers about the Third Time Around |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
1. I`ve been a political junkie for decades and |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #1 |
23. I agree |
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Jack from Charlotte (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
29. You speak for me wry...... I, too, was a Watergate........ |
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wryter2000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #29 |
124. I thought I'd stepped into a worm hole |
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Liberal_Andy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:42 PM Response to Reply #1 |
77. Voted McGovern at 18 |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:06 AM Response to Original message |
2. I am in a Panic.. this is the worst ever.. this i Hitler taking over.. |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. I'm afraid I agree with sam sarrha |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
46. I agree |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
52. Oh, and by the effing way... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:51 PM Response to Reply #52 |
82. I used that to avoid "Baby Boomer." |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:07 PM Response to Reply #52 |
91. Well, 46 IS "middle-aged" |
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Atman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:28 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. CURSE YOU! CURSE YOU, DAMMIT! |
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the_spectator (932 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Kudos on your familial longevity! |
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Booster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 10:52 AM Response to Reply #52 |
127. Hate to mention it, but unless you expect to live to be over 100, |
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MuseRider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
59. Same for me. |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:07 AM Response to Original message |
3. I touched on this in my weekly newspaper column today.... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:11 AM Response to Reply #3 |
8. I was trying to avoid saying this, but I guess it must be said |
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flowomo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. hear ya |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:33 PM Response to Reply #8 |
75. Don't fool yourself, they are not confused. They are doing exactly |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
4. I woke up this morning and thought I was back in the 70's |
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Patchuli (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
5. I'm not handling it well at all! |
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samdogmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
6. Deja Vu! I can't believe the public NEVER learns from past mistakes! |
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rwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
7. I did'nt think about politics at the time |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
12. You were affected though |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
97. and then came the Reagan campaign + 'it's morning in America' |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:12 AM Response to Original message |
9. They're like the streptococcus bacteria |
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marions ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #9 |
14. GOOD analogy... |
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annabanana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #9 |
15. BINGO |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:52 PM Response to Reply #9 |
83. When you start digging into the history of this menace, the 70s... |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Actually the Goldwater candidacy in 64 was the start. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:37 PM Response to Reply #87 |
96. I see domestic roots there - especially in the use ... |
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Boomer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
11. What demoralizes me... |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Things they take for granted were hard won |
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EstimatedProphet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
44. Agreed |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
17. It's never been worse than under W |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #17 |
22. That's the real measuring stick |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yep, I remember them all! It is worse with Shrub! |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:29 AM Response to Reply #18 |
21. my 1st president was Eisenhower. they've been sneaky but never proud of it |
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Medical Speaking (151 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
19. Replugs |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
20. I remember Ike, and I believe the post-Nixon republicans are differerent |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:33 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I remember Ike too, but at the time my main focus was on... |
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HereSince1628 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:47 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. My reality included the actions of Howdy Doody, Tom Terrific and Ike |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
25. Ominous times now. |
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Skidmore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
26. A lot of the people in this administration have been around since |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Yeah, that's part of what's so dispiriting |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
27. This is much worst than the Nixon or Reagan years. The objectives |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. Well, as far as Nixon goes, |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
31. Because we didn't "Clean It Out Properly" when we had the chance we |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
32. IMO |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:51 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I start to worry that either our population is so dumbed down or they just |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:23 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. "we are all just to busy keeping our heads above water" |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
33. Its amazing how many of the players have remained.....Cheney and Rummy |
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readmylips (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
34. My family was forced to watch Nixon hearings.... |
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leftofthedial (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
36. I don't know if it's a "three-strikes-and-you're-out" scenario, but |
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mopinko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. quote lily tomlin- "i get more amd more cynical the older i get |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #38 |
78. I don;t know about a shadow government, but.... |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
39. This Administration is Different |
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peace frog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Thank you for sharing your experiences |
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atomic-fly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
71. Well put... |
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garthranzz (983 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
106. I agree |
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Frustratedlady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:07 PM Response to Reply #106 |
110. I was thinking tonight about |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
40. This is so much worse |
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Jamison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
51. I disagree with this... |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #51 |
58. Interesting point. |
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Jamison (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:09 PM Response to Reply #58 |
101. Great, it's a good point to bring up... |
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jaysunb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
41. It's worse ! |
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Mugsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
42. Despite Watergate, Ford nearly won. |
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MamaBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
45. Blatant, Open, Unashamed Public Corruption |
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DinahMoeHum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
47. Right now, I'm not handling it too well. As far as I am concerned, |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
48. I feel betrayed, not only by the Republicans, of course, but by the |
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davsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
50. The crimes are more ugly, and the GOP has been invaded. |
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Ex Lion Tamer (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
53. My approach . . . |
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nomatrix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
54. If you have been a victim of Katrina |
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MN ChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
55. I was in my late teens during Watergate |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:35 PM Response to Original message |
56. This is because Democrats are often too squeamish to do the dirty work |
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MN ChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #56 |
68. Good points RTP |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
70. It won't happen because a majority of dem pols are involved |
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ReadTomPaine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:44 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. That's not the first time Huey has come up in conversations of this type. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:03 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. He was the motivation fro FDR to get off his ass and go to work. |
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drthais (771 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
57. here's my 2 cents... |
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yorkiemommie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:54 PM Response to Original message |
60. have felt hopeless under * |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
61. I wasn't as worried the other times as I am this time. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:56 PM Response to Original message |
62. I was a bit young during Nixon |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:57 PM Response to Original message |
63. Sort of off topic, but what is middle aged these days? |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:21 PM Response to Reply #63 |
72. Halfway between your birth and your death -- 15 if one dies at 30 |
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indie_voter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
95. LOL!!! |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
64. I've grown disgusted with politics/politicians in general. |
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FSogol (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 02:59 PM Response to Original message |
65. I've been cynical ever since |
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Jara sang (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:03 PM Response to Original message |
66. I fear that this rattle or shift as you put it |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
67. We stopped the Vietnam war. That gives me A LOT of comfort |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
69. Lived through Nixon, lived through Raygun. |
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stevedeshazer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
73. I was a college student during Watergate. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
74. I was a kid for the nixon round, but survived raygun and 41. |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
76. Well, I think we'll pull out of this like we have before---- BUT .... |
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MADem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
80. What's that saying? Three time's the charm |
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Pharaoh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:51 PM Response to Original message |
81. far worse than nixon or reagan |
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jbnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:55 PM Response to Original message |
84. People have said so much of what I feel |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:36 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. great post jbnow |
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carolinayellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
85. The scariest change is the decline of the news media |
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bobbieinok (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #85 |
102. agree about what media will do.....they did this with Clinton |
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endarkenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:23 PM Response to Original message |
86. This is the worst ever. |
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GOPFighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 04:45 PM Response to Original message |
89. Naw, it was worse under Nixon |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:21 PM Response to Reply #89 |
93. Nixon at least tried to placate America's liberal side |
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mokawanis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:10 PM Response to Original message |
92. The short response from me is: |
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mcscajun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
98. Some of us were even around (just barely) for Eisenhower. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
99. I Feel Cursed, Frankly |
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Lerkfish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
103. I have been through the three cycles of republican self-entitlement |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:27 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. We could regain legitimacy -- but we've lost leadership status |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 07:39 PM Response to Original message |
105. Worst. President. Ever. |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
107. Worst President ever |
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MarsThe Cat (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:18 PM Response to Original message |
108. Big Business controlling the media is THE PROBLEM. |
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Bouncy Ball (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
109. I've been AROUND since the Nixon years, but thankfully |
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nvliberal (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:17 PM Response to Original message |
111. I used to think Nixon was the worst president there could possibly |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
112. Your "bright spot" "illusion of prosperity" is why we are TOTALLY fucked |
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Armstead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 09:23 AM Response to Reply #112 |
123. That's why I used the word "illusion" -- It was E,mperor's New Clothes |
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Chicago Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
113. I miss Nixon |
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Gloria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:35 PM Response to Original message |
114. This is the worst ever. I am totally at war with half my family |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
115. It's MUCH worse, but we CAN STOP IT FROM RECURRING-- |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #115 |
122. Too bad you have to UNDO it, instead of PREVENT it while being perpetrated |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Oct-20-05 11:58 PM Response to Original message |
116. Nixon and his cohorts look like the Little Rascals compared to Shrub |
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rumpel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
117. It seems the same gang is getting bolder each time, as if the flower on |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:14 AM Response to Original message |
118. Well, they aren't killing our major candidates by murder this time |
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ngGale (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:32 AM Response to Original message |
119. So much worse than... |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
120. I keep telling people this has happened repeatedly - Repukes can't lead. |
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Mr_Spock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 12:40 AM Response to Original message |
121. I keep telling people this has happened repeatedly - Repukes can't lead. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
125. This is the worst. This time they have actually destroyed the country. |
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realFedUp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
126. Just saw Good Night and Good Luck |
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tlsmith1963 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-21-05 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
128. I Was Very Young During Nixon |
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