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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:30 AM Original message |
Does anyone know anything about an ancient Mayan/Japanese connection? |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. I have heard a theory that some Asians sailed across the ocean |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:43 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Look at this! I Googled and found info on Yucatec Mayan and Ainu... |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
44. An interesting paper, but it is linguistic science, makes no cultural link |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. Thanks for this important info, Bernardo, and all the other info... |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. Bernardo is right |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Just for fun, I suppose you could argue that if the Ainu |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:15 PM Response to Reply #7 |
45. Modern research shows multiple waves of migration |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
71. Familiar with the research, Bernardo, |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 06:08 AM Response to Reply #45 |
79. There are theories |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. I thought the Ainu were supposedly Caucasian. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
33. While Googling, I found speculation that Kennewick man... |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:03 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Fascinating link, thanks (nt) |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
46. More than mere speculation, serious possibility Kennewick man is Caucasian |
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oneighty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
2. No Japanese |
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eShirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:39 AM Response to Original message |
3. some people think Chinese ships made it to the Americas |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
48. The Chinese Ships theory is the 1421 voyages and Gavin Menzies |
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Richard D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:45 AM Response to Original message |
5. Africa and Europe made it to the new world too. |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:54 AM Response to Original message |
6. Hubatz Men, a Daykeeper, used to talk about that... |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:59 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Amazing, SpiralHawk -- thank you! nt |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
9. did we have the same guide? |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:12 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Could be, pitohui! (Seriously? This was maybe 8 years ago.) |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. it was in 2000 for me |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:37 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Could well be, although the info at post #6 is interesting. |
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ComerPerro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
11. Its an interesting theory, and this is a cool thread |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
12. Have you seen the PBS special Family of Man? I think you'd love it |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #12 |
35. No -- I'll try to. Thanks! |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. It's good - a geneticists tracks our ancestors migrations out of Africa |
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EuroObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 05:45 AM Response to Reply #40 |
76. There really is no such thing as race. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:32 AM Response to Original message |
14. Years ago, I went to the Ballet Folklorico and there was one |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Hmmm, indeed. Thanks for your perspective. nt |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 10:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
87. thank YOU for stirring things up. |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
16. The civilization older than Atlantis - Mu |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:43 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Very interesting --thanks for posting! |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:02 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. This article was written by the editor of |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
20. Also known as Lemuria. I have had my own channelings concerning |
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EnfantTerrible (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. Thanks for that link |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. I think the Maya name was At-lan-ti-ha |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Yes the language similarities of the naming of the Atlantic in ancient |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
18. There are various possible connections, but all fairly ancient |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:53 AM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Really interesting info, starroute -- |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
37. Got the second link wrong in my post above |
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IChing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. thanks for the link starroute, it adds another link to my therories on |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Wow -- look at that Pacific Rim map! nt |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Another fascinating article! Thanks! |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
50. Very interesting connection. Thanks for posting it. |
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EuroObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 05:51 AM Response to Reply #18 |
77. Room to mention Jim Jarmusch's "Dead Man" here! |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
21. you know, some scholars |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Look at the article at the link in starroute's post #18 -- |
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Tsiyu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. I bet the "reluctance" is pride and arrogance |
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newspeak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:09 PM Response to Original message |
28. and about Celtic history |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:07 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. Celts and East Indians ARE definitely related |
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redherring (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. Ancient Celtic religion and Hinduism also seem to have some |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:56 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. There are similarities among all the ancient Indo-European gods |
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Rowdyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
31. Fascinating thread...Can't believe I'm the first to recommend it! |
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Generic Other (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
32. The Japanese language is part of the Finno-Ugaric group |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:10 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. The more usual theory is that |
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redherring (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
58. Ainus don't look caucasian to me |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. They are considered "archaic Asians," that is, Asians who were there |
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smallprint (778 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
36. look up science-frontiers.com, archaeology and anthropology sections |
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never cry wolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 03:18 PM Response to Original message |
41. Kick, so i can find this for later reading....n/t |
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OxQQme (694 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 03:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Kicking and adding |
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Bernardo de La Paz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Fascinating cultures, not necessarily as connected as some imagine |
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EuroObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 06:00 AM Response to Reply #43 |
78. Is there not evidence that the wheel was known |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
47. Everyone knows they shared a common ancestor culture in Antarctica |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:54 PM Response to Original message |
52. the connection is jade. |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:16 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. Not True. All Maya Jade Is Local (Highland Guatamala Mostly). |
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librechik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 01:07 AM Response to Reply #65 |
75. you are right of course--i misinterpreted something someone said |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
53. Japanese language expert here |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:16 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. I read your post, Lydia, and I think you probably have the answer -- |
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redherring (214 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. Isn't it true that Korea also has Siberian connection? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 06:52 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. The ethnic make-up of Japan is very complex |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 10:33 PM Response to Reply #53 |
72. Right. The rate of change between peoples cut off from one another |
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dpbrown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
86. Nicely analyzed |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-24-05 11:38 AM Response to Reply #53 |
88. Hey, I love linguistics and I read this post. |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:05 PM Response to Original message |
64. Here Is My Professional Opinion As A Maya Archaeologist. |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:29 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. yes |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Close. But, not quite right. |
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SlavesandBulldozers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:53 PM Response to Reply #67 |
68. I never implied a Teo-Chichen connection. |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:00 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. Yep. Exactly. |
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DeepModem Mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #64 |
74. We were awaiting your posting to this thread, DistressedAmerican -- |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 06:26 AM Response to Reply #64 |
80. I have a question (or two ... maybe three) |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:07 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Hmmm. That is always a tough one. |
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H2O Man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. His records |
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DistressedAmerican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #83 |
84. Ouch. That IS A Bummer! |
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diddlysquat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:39 PM Response to Original message |
70. You might be interested in this book: |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. See my post no. 53 |
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diddlysquat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #73 |
82. I read her book quite a while ago but I remember that |
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mistertrickster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-23-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
85. Exactly right, Lydia. Languages like Latin and English are clearly |
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