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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:13 PM Original message |
It's been said that, since 1971, maths and English skills scores have been |
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Dark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's the parents fault. Seriously, |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:43 PM Response to Reply #1 |
17. Or the school systems either... It's not so refreshingly simplistic: |
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Coastie for Truth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
2. From a (Private School) School Board Member |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. How much has math changed in 40 years? |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:19 PM Response to Original message |
3. meanwhile, politicians are more concerned about 'intelliegent design' |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. Has somebody tried to see what is the global knowledge |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
6. It's a complex issue |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. If children are encouraged in their natural |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:18 PM Response to Reply #6 |
25. I agree. I taught (guess that makes me a professor ala Michael Brown) |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. there is too much emphasis on learning = better job= more money |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
18. But people wish to prosper, or at least live comfortably. |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. If you break it down |
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nvliberal (618 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Read Berliner and Biddle's 1995 book "The Manufactured Crisis," |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:37 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I'm an educator, and I can say that our school is in trouble. |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. 2005 SAT scores for Math were at a record high |
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Mythsaje (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. Educators exist in something of an echo chamber... |
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Ksec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
11. combination |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
12. IMO, biggest influence is language. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:49 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. slight correction |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
13. It isn't the most politically correct thing to say |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
19. I myself hate political correctness. |
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teach1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. Be careful ... |
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Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 01:50 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. So many graphs in general... so which one is truly unbiased and correct? |
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teach1st (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:01 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Depends on what data you use and which results you want... |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 07:40 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. The SUV factor |
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Vitruvius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
23. Math, science, literacy and competence of any kind are NOT VALUED in |
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progressivebydesign (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
24. IMHO, it's distraction, parental apathy, parental stress, and politics. |
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October (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 09:18 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Plenty of condescension from teachers, too... |
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AirAmFan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:43 PM Response to Original message |
28. Slightly lower test scores cood be a GOOD THING, if it comes from higher |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Oct-22-05 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
29. If you're talking about SAT scores, |
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