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Sat Oct-22-05 01:27 PM
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Did you know that Dick Cheney can issue an Executive Order? |
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It's rare, but Cheney (along with any other member of the Executive Branch) can issue an Executive Order. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executive_order
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:31 PM
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1. OH, Dear God, don't tell HIM! |
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I shudder to think what he might come up with!
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:33 PM
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2. Dick Cheney is not a member of the executive branch; he's |
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Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 01:34 PM by BuyingThyme
a member of the legislative branch.
Just sayin'.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:38 PM
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4. You might want to take a look at the constitution again. |
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:41 PM
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6. I don't mean to embarrass you, |
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but the vice president is the president of the Senate, and nothing else.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:47 PM
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Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 01:48 PM by William769
The President dies?
Section 3 Clause 4: The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.
Trust me I'm not embarrassed.
ON EDIT: Article. II. Section. 1. Clause 1: The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America. He shall hold his Office during the Term of four Years, and, together with the Vice President, chosen for the same Term, be elected, as follows
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:49 PM
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8. Yes, if the vice president becomes the president, he's |
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no longer the vice president. You sure know you're stuff.
I think you should go back and take a look at that Constitution you were talking about...before I decide to really embarrass you.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:50 PM
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9. Please try to really embarrass. me. |
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:51 PM
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11. Okay, see if you can get this: |
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Just because the Speaker of the House is in the line of succession, it doesn't mean he's a member of the executive branch.
Let me know when you've caught up.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:56 PM
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14. Don't take this the wrong way, but can you read? |
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:51 PM
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His Constitutionally circumsribed role as "President of the Senate" doesn't make him part of the Legislative Branch any more than the State of the Union or Veto Power makes the President a member of the Legislative Branch -- nor does the Senate's "advise and consent" role make them part of the Executive Branch, or the Chief Justice's role in Presiding over impeachment proceedings (the 'trial') in the Senate makes him a member of the Legislative Branch.
The "Executive" is established by Article II of the Constitution, in which the offices of President and Vice President are specified. Simple.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:52 PM
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12. Though you pretended to do so, you offered nothing to back up |
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what you said.
In other words, nonsense!
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:00 PM
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16. Physician, heal thyself! |
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When you throw stones, you might consider your glass house.
You've offered NOTHING but a patently incorrect ASSertion. I provided a plethora of examples and (on edit) offer the Constitution of the United States itself. That kind of asinine bullshit is disruptive.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:53 PM
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13. Thank you for making me think I'm not going crazy. |
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:58 PM
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15. Well I guess every political scientist will be surprised to hear this |
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new revelation. VP part of the Executive Branch. This is not disputed.
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:37 PM
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Sat Oct-22-05 01:40 PM
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5. Can he just go ahead and |
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Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 01:41 PM by tallahasseedem
executive order all their asses out of there.
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:02 PM
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17. like "Kill Wellstone."? |
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Edited on Sat Oct-22-05 02:39 PM by Algorem
"...And his wife..."
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:11 PM
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18. very silly == the sky is not falling |
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Yes, IF the Vice President (or any other member of the executive branch) issued an "order" it would be an "executive order". But since the head of the Executive Branch is the President, not the VP, it very likely is that the VP has no authority to issue what we commonly refer to as an "Executive Order." To the extent that, for example, the head of the Dept of the Interior issued an order within the scope of his/her authority, it would be an "executive" order, but again, not what we commonly refer to as an Executive Order. And, no one, including the Pres, can issue an executive order that "legislates". From the Wikipedia article referenced by the OP -- "the Supreme Court ruled that an executive order from President Harry S. Truman that placed all steel mills in the country under federal control was invalid because it attempted to make law, rather than clarify or act to further a law put forth by the Congress or the Constitution. Presidents since this decision have generally been careful to cite which specific laws they are acting under when issuing new executive orders."
So, just a silly bit of hysteria.
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Sat Oct-22-05 02:12 PM
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19. Well, you said it's rare... |
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...can you give an example?
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