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Presstitutes (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:30 AM Original message |
Exclusive preview of Kerry's Iraq speech: We were "misled into war." |
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texpatriot2004 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
1. Thank you Sen Kerry. n.t |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
2. What say you, Senator Clinton? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:33 AM Response to Original message |
3. "Lead us into a quagmire?" We are already in a quagmire! |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:36 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. This is the responsible position to take but I am concerned that |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Iraq is already in a state of chaos |
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reality based (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It can get worse |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #11 |
28. Sure it can get worse |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #5 |
104. RIGHT ON!! |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. it will be too late in that he doesnt have the ability or power to do it |
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Freedomfried (684 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #3 |
6. The UN needs to come in as the US is leaving ASAP |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
7. Flamebait! Kerry is lying when he says |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:42 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. He also said again and again he would NOT have gone to war. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #10 |
34. he did. and he has been consistent on his dislike for this war |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #34 |
112. Yes |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Kerry did say he stands by his vote a year ago |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #19 |
37. i dont know why people act like this is so hard. he took seriously |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
51. Appparently, you are having trouble with reading comprehension |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
56. thinking here |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:13 AM Response to Reply #56 |
61. You still didn't address the issue |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:21 AM Response to Reply #61 |
68. from tay tay right below. i dont go into it, because the info is there |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:31 AM Original message |
You must be confused |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
89. of course you wont read it |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #89 |
90. Did I say I wouldn't read it? No, I didn't. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #90 |
93. you are right. i made an assumption |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. sorry dupe |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:13 AM Response to Reply #68 |
113. I remember that |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:29 AM Response to Reply #51 |
102. Just what do you think the IWR says? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #7 |
29. i think when that happened there was a to do. and it didnt get reported |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #7 |
35. The vote isn't the war |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. 3 weeks before elections. right after 9/11. with the understanding |
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TayTay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:16 AM Response to Reply #7 |
63. New York Times, 9/21/04 Knowing what I know now.... |
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Breeze54 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #7 |
106. I was in tears when I heard that! |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:41 AM Response to Original message |
8. Wish he would have driven this point home |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. STill good that he said it. He is the 2nd senator to present a plan |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #15 |
32. What plan? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #32 |
47. but it is. deep breath everyone. back to adult war. lets all figure |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. These are excerpts - not the full speech |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #32 |
107. peace activist, me, worked for months, precinct stuff, cause Kerry was dif |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:55 AM Response to Reply #8 |
43. he did. time and time again. and then we and media and repugs |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:32 AM Response to Reply #43 |
78. Oh I agree.... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:48 AM Response to Reply #78 |
88. dnc didnt have the balls, but dean had the balls. why i donate |
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Catchawave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:09 AM Response to Reply #88 |
98. A year ago.... |
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Coexist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
9. Lets hope this is the start of all the Dems waking up |
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nothingshocksmeanymore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
12. I no longer agree with Kerry about his strategy or Pottery Barn rule |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
13. That speech is about 2 years too late. Kerry is soooooo 2004. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
14. Kerry EXPLICITLY said he would vote |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Cant you read? He says he would not vote the same way. |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #17 |
24. He says so now. Why couldn't he say that before the election? |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #17 |
30. Last year he said he WOULD vote the same way!! |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #17 |
36. He also says he's been saying this for a year, which is BS n/t |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. vote has four letters, war has three |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:08 AM Response to Reply #36 |
58. No he does NOT. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
16. When is he going to use the word... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. Well, two senators are on record starting to withdraw the troops and |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. During the campaign, Kerry said he'd send 40k more troops over |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:54 AM Response to Reply #39 |
42. No he did not . |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
83. Yes, Kerry did call for 40k more troops |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. The link in the OP |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
55. Excuse me? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:12 AM Response to Reply #55 |
60. He's been offering them for 3 years |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:17 AM Original message |
Continuing with your personal attacks, still no link |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:32 AM Response to Original message |
79. I did? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:34 AM Response to Reply #79 |
80. uh, here... |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:37 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. campaigned, as in advocated |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #81 |
86. You obviously have never been in a campaign HQ |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:51 AM Response to Reply #86 |
91. If they only knew |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #91 |
95. Well guess what? |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. oh gosh |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:26 AM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Oh, ok |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:03 AM Response to Reply #101 |
108. BTW, here's your link |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:17 AM Response to Reply #60 |
65. sorry dupe |
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Upfront (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
20. If Kerry |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
21. It's a nice speech. But a bit late. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
22. If we DUers were not misled why was Kerry misled? |
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sidwill (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
23. What you talkin bout Kerry?!?! |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Not the question of going to war had he been president. |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
25. why do let advanced copies go out? |
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CardInAustin (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
26. No no no no.... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:49 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Are you talking of people of DU? Seems to me that they fit your model |
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CardInAustin (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #33 |
44. What model is that? |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #44 |
59. If you don't agree with Kerry, some here feel compelled |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Apparently a lot more than you as you dont even know what his positions |
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ultraist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:27 AM Response to Reply #62 |
72. You're now criticizing me for volunteering? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. What claim?? |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:38 AM Response to Reply #72 |
82. You are the one who criticized me in the first place. |
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The Stranger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
38. A year late. He is with us more and more, and we need him less and less. |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
41. this is exactly why Kerry will never be President |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:56 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Well, why? I had no illusion that whatever he could say would satisfy you |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. a couple of points |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #53 |
54. I posted the AP release lower, if you care to read. |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:18 AM Response to Reply #54 |
67. i always "care to read" - thanks for posting it ... |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #67 |
74. I already said many times that I dont believe in any other way than |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #74 |
92. not sure i'm understanding you |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:56 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. Thanks for clarifying what you expect from a timetable |
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welshTerrier2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:05 AM Response to Reply #94 |
96. timetables |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #96 |
105. You stated the reasons why I dont believe in timetables anyway |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
45. Sorry John, but that shit simply doesn't fly. |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
52. For those who care to read more before judging. |
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Mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
64. You can't get passed the fact that Kerry voted for the IWR when we all |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #64 |
69. He did and says now that he would not do it again and accepts part of the |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:07 AM Response to Original message |
57. There were 23 Senators that were NOT misled, and knew it was a crock |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:30 AM Response to Reply #57 |
75. Leaders lead, followers follow |
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Presstitutes (200 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
66. PLEASE RE-READ ORIGINAL POST |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #66 |
70. Who cares? Kerry bashing is the latest fade on DU. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:39 AM Response to Reply #70 |
84. No dear, he is quite irrelevant. Today it's Fitzmas - who gives a rat's |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:08 AM Response to Reply #84 |
97. because everyone dissing him is yelling at him and all the others |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:05 AM Response to Reply #97 |
109. Proximity of indict's has me giddy, and MORE political: Kerry /Edwards! |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #70 |
85. "One issue" nuts, Mass... Pay no attention. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
71. So NOW he decides to say what he should have said during the |
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Sparkman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #71 |
111. W/O reading ALL other threads....has anyone here wanted JK in 2008? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:28 AM Response to Original message |
73. Better late than never...In 10 years he'll tell us he won the election! |
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sidwill (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 09:48 AM Response to Original message |
87. Its not "Kerry bashing" |
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Tatiana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
99. Good to see him taking steps toward making amends for that bad vote. |
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AztecGringo (62 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
103. Who CARES? |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-26-05 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
110. Go Kerry! |
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