LittleClarkie
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:07 PM
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Rush: the withdrawl of Miers shows the strength of Conservative movement |
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Are they not including Bush in that movement anymore? Because it sure doesn't show HIS strength.
He said "the lefties" were fit to be tied over the Conservative far right takeover of the Republican Party. He said that was wrong, because the Conservatives ARE the Party. Now, does he mean NEOconservatives? Because I suspect there are a few PALEOconservatives who would dispute that.
Is there a place where the two come together? Is social policy where they come together?
All of which still seems to leave out Bush. His cronies don't seem to care all that much about social issues. Oh, he talks a good game and throws a few bones. But his closest friends in the WH are pro-choice.
I dunno. I did think that Rush sounded like he was trying to put lipstick on a pig though.
He also called the Senator from Louisiana "Baby Fat Landrieu".
So what's on his body? It sure isn't baby fat. It's just fat fat.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:13 PM
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1. I find it amusing that Miers is rejected partially by the |
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conservatives themselves. They trash their own nominee, delay seating the supreme court justice, and weaken their position on their next nominee, but somehow that strengthens their movement? Only from the minds of freepers could come such logic.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:19 PM
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4. Miers was more than partially rejected by the RW. Rush is an idiot |
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The RW hated her - not RW enough for their taste.
They torpedoed her, not the left.
Rush hasn't a clue...............
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LittleClarkie
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:22 PM
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6. Clarifying: he seemed to be saying that the act of torpedoing her |
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showed their strength. The fact that they were able to torpedo her showed they were a force to be reckoned with.
A headless force.
He seemed to be saying that the Left were fit to be tied because they LIKED her.
I thought they were kinda apathetic, myself. They just sat back and watched the fun, mostly.
But indeed, Rush is an idiot.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:29 PM
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12. "But indeed, Rush is an idiot" - and a pompous ass |
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(sorry, I just can't help it)
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:15 PM
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2. It Shows the Strength AND the Stupidity of the Conservative Movement |
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they probably could have had a vote on the court to overturn Roe v. Wade. They're not going to get their aspiring Bork. So they'll just have to wail and gnash their teeth when another Souter or Kennedy gets approved.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:15 PM
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3. These are EXTREMISTS. Zealots. Wingnuts. Theocrats. |
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If that's the new definition for conservative, I'm sure there are some old time conservatives jumping ship.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:20 PM
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5. Absolutely -- do the following belong in THIS version of the GOP? |
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Howard Baker Barry Goldwater Brent Scowcroft Sandra Day O'Connor John Danforth Colin Powell Paul O'Neill Lawrence Wilkerson
I believe there will be many AWAKE people re-registering over the next few months.
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LittleClarkie
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:24 PM
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9. A lawyer friend of mine, and Hillary, were both Goldwater Republicans |
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My lawyer friend is now a Dem. Despite what some say, so is Hillary.
So yeah, I think they are jumping ship.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:28 PM
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11. It's like they're carving their party DOWN into a smaller slice of the pie |
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If you're not a "true believer" then you don't belong anymore. So much for the proverbial "big tent."
It will bite them in the end.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:26 PM
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These are not conservatives. These are far-right extremists.
Eisenhower was a conservative. Goldwater was a conservative. I may disagree with some of their political philosophy, but I have no doubt that both of those men would be sick at what their party has become.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:23 PM
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7. He's talking about the religious extremists and GWB, who have been used |
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as political cover and a fund raising/vote machine for the neocon cabal. Doubt if GHWB, Wolfowitz, Cheney or the rest give a rat's ass about their social concerns. They've got money, though, and they've got some votes.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:23 PM
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8. it shows the weakness of the Presidency |
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:30 PM
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13. Who defeated the Miers nomination: |
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It was an alliance of two factions: the sensible conservatives, who looked at her and said, "Wow, she's really not qualified. This looks like cronyism." And the far right wingers, who looked at her and said, "There's no guarantee that she will overturn Roe. She doesn't come with a rubber stamp on her that says Fundie."
I think in a weird way he's kind of right -- it shows the strength of the alliance of those two factions; together they stood up to the President.
But they certainly did make Bush look like a nimrod. No, switch that -- he made HIMSELF look like a nimrod. :D
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:35 PM
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14. but now the sensible conservatives may not feel so inclined to |
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support the next choice, especially if that selection is made to appease the Fundies, who've pretty much shown their butts in the last few weeks. With 2006 drawing nearer, with the White House becoming weaker, with the Fundie base becoming shriller, with the majority of Americans still believing in moderation, an extremist judicial candidate may not get a nod and a wink.
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:39 PM
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But I don't think the WH will send in a winger. I think (cross fingers) that saner heads in the WH will prevail and they will try to find someone as much like John Roberts (brilliantly qualified, evanescent track record on the issues) as they can.
Although I don't know if they CAN find such a person.......
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:43 PM
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16. I think they shot their wad with Roberts on that score |
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or they would have put forth that kind of nominee in the first place. Unless, of course, they thought having a minority or a woman was all-important. Guys, getting a qualified minority or female judge was the idea. I can still remember when Thomas was nominated; my best friend remarked that the Republicans must have worked hard to find such a mediocre African-American judge. ;-)
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:55 PM
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17. I do think he has a point. |
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The christian taliban seems to be the only group left standing under their big tent .The fiscal conservatives have obviously been abandoned,all that's left are the social cons..Do republicans honestly believe that there are enough of them to keep GOPs in power?I don't think there is.I'm hoping they have shot their wad with the christian right and are about to come crumbling down.How large can their numbers be?I wonder what would be left of their party if the fundies abandoned them and lost their taste for politics.One can only hope we will find out in '06 and '08. Maybe I'm looking through rose colored glasses,but how many times can the naked emperor be exposed?
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LittleClarkie
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Thu Oct-27-05 05:01 PM
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19. And even the Christian Taliban isn't getting all they want |
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they wanted Terri Schiavo kept alive, for one thing. Nope.
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Thu Oct-27-05 05:23 PM
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20. I keep hoping a little light |
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will go on in their collective brain and they will realize that they really only get lip service from the Gop,but these are the same people who believe the draft dodging son of a rich east coast family is a cowboy from Texas!:crazy:
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Thu Oct-27-05 04:58 PM
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18. Get off the pills Rush, you're delusional!!!!!!!!!!n/t |
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