Mairead
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Wed Oct-15-03 08:20 AM
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"No, I will not ask Justice Thomas" |
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:04 AM
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1. Kick for Bwaaaahaaa! n/t |
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:22 AM
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21. OK - I finally had to ask . . . |
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:27 AM
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Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 10:34 AM by UTUSN
to save some people time from looking in the message box that is empty. We've reached the limits of my technical knowledge here.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:29 AM
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no text, no further text, end of message.
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Thu Oct-16-03 03:10 PM
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:14 AM
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2. Why Justice Thomas? ~ Because he's black or has he had a drug past? |
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Is it the belief All Blacks use drugs?
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:15 AM
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3. I think it's because . . . |
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Mr. Thomas officiated at Rush's last wedding and is as close to a "friend" as His Bloviatingness has.
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:37 AM
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5. My guess was that it's because Thomas is seen as someone with |
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no class, no integrity, and a willingness to 'take care of' his winger 'friends'.
Unlike, for example, the late and DEEPLY lamented Mr Justice Marshall, who epitomised real class and was pure integrity from the marrow of his bones outward.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:07 AM
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16. I am a BIG FAN of Thurgodd Marshall's, too |
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Thurgood Marshall was the attorney who argued Brown v. Board of Education in front of the United States Supreme Court.
He was truly a remarkable man, who had real class and who was pure integrity from the marrow of his bones outward.
THat is why I use one of his quotations (one of my favorites!) as my signature line.
Here it is: ""Distinctions by race are so evil, so arbitrary and insidious that a state bound to defend the equal protection of the laws must not allow them in any public sphere" -- Thurgood Marshall, Brown v. Board of Education, 1954"
Words to live by, don't you agree?
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Thu Oct-16-03 03:28 PM
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27. "Words to live by, don't you agree?" |
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You bet! Truer words were never spoken. Which is what makes the obvious biases STILL permeating our damn' society so infuriating.
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:27 AM
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4. Never mind. I see the moustache now. n/t |
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Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 09:33 AM by dralston
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:46 AM
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6. This cartoon is racist |
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Don't get me wrong. I have nothing but abject disdain for Limpballs and Thomas who are two of the biggest enablers of the junta that are alive.
However, there is no connection between the suggestion that Thomas would score weed for Limpballs other than the racist perception that all blacks are druggies.
I think this cartoon sucks big ones.
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:52 AM
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7. You're mssing the point |
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The Rush character asked about Thomas scoring for him because Rush *and people like Rush* assume all Black people do drugs. I think that's really the main point of the cartoon, in fact, not the fact of Rush's drug abuse. The cartoon is not racist; Rush and his ilk are racist.
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Thu Oct-16-03 08:55 AM
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If Rush went to a parking lot to "score" and saw a white guy and a black guy, he would ask the black guy. It's his mentality.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:05 AM
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9. Which perpetuates the myth |
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The fact that you didn't "miss the point" makes my point.
It's ugly.
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Mairead
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:08 AM
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11. That doesn't seem to make sense |
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Our awareness of rw myths perpetuates them? That implies that they don't exist in the RWers, but in us.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:13 AM
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answered your own question
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:18 AM
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Yes the cartoon perpetuates the myth but it was not too long ago Rush engaged in a dialogue on black quarterbacks, so the "sickness" of race "consciousness" lives. It's how you deal with it that counts. Rush doesn't deal with it very well.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:34 AM
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15. I'm still missing it, I guess |
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Are you saying that the RW doesn't believe what we think they believe?
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:09 AM
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17. I think it tends to perpetuate a myth |
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that both "wings" tend to naturally jump to when confronted with blacks and drugs.
I'm not usually this sensitive to such, but this one strikes me the wrong way. Apparently, I'm the only one, so nevermind.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:22 AM
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20. I get what you're saying |
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we jump on the wrong-doers before they have a chance (or if we even give them a chance) to absolve themselves of previous wrongs.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:42 AM
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As I understand it, Rush asked his housekeeper -- a female who is not African-American, to score drugs for him.
Why does this cartoon have to perpetuate the myth (and imbed even further into the psyches of who-knows-how-many people) that African-Americans are the people you go to for illegal drugs? It could have had Justice O'Connor or Justice Ginsburg (both non-African-American females). But no, it perpetuates the notion that the only Justice who would be dealing drugs is the one Justice who is African-American.
I agree with you, Jacobin, this cartoon is ugly, racist, and inappropriate.
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Thu Oct-16-03 03:47 PM
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28. Jeez, I must really be dense |
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If this were during Mr Justice Marshall's time, could he have been made the butt of the cartoon? I personally can't even begin to imagine it, not for a second.
To me, it's not that Thomas is Black that makes him suitable as the butt, it's that Thomas is perceived as someone totally lacking any good personal qualities. He's someone I would personally go out of my way to avoid even encountering in the street because the prospect makes my skin crawl the same way the prospect of encountering Scalia does...I'd be (irrationally) afraid of catching something. I can imagine Thomas having a drugs connection just as I can imagine Scalia being diagnosable as a sadistic paedophile, but the reverse just doesn't fit my perceptions of the two. They seem as though they would have very specific constellations of vices -- Thomas's tawdry and commonplace, Scalia's vicious and smarmy.
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:08 AM
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10. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. |
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Thu Oct-16-03 09:25 AM
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14. The Folder/Case in the Cartoon Is "Medical Marijuana" |
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Edited on Thu Oct-16-03 09:35 AM by UTUSN
Since I originally kicked the thread, I'll offer my own share of rationale:
1) The starter for me in kicking it was that, in my simplistic way, anything that discomfits wingnuts is great by me. I detest Miguel ESTRADA and Ruben NAVARRETTE and Michelle MALKIN as much as Clarence THOMAS for the tools they are and the damage they do to us all, let alone their home groups.
2) LIMBOsevic's pushers were not Black, so I disagree with the implication that LIMBOsevic would choose to label a Black in a parking lot as a pusher over others.
3) The cartoonist is trying to say that the SC is currently, fortuitously considering the medical marijuana issue and the cartoon LIMBOsevic is trying to use his inside connection with Clarence THOMAS and LIMBOsevic's problem is supposed to be with "prescription" (medical) drugs.
Just my humble opinion: Hope I don't get mugged and sucker-punched like I did the other day in a thread. If so, I have my SKINNER quotation handy.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:12 AM
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18. Not looking to mug anyone |
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It just struck me the wrong way. :-)
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:22 AM
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19. Wasn't Referring to You, Just to My Mugger |
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Was a bit wary of getting into a discussion because of it.
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Thu Oct-16-03 10:35 AM
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24. Btw, the Cartoon THOMAS Has a Coke Can |
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referring to his own wingnut scandal. Haha.
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