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Wed Oct-15-03 02:03 PM
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Poll question: Just about finished with Franken's book - Which one should I read next? |
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I've been hungry to do some extra reading in politics lately and went a bit overboard and ordered 7 books from Amazon last week. They arrived yesterday and I'm almost finished with Franken's book. Good book, BTW, and I recommend it, but I can't say I have learned anything new because I'm already well aware of the right wing Lies and the Lying Liars who tell them. I'd love to have been a witness to Franken walking up to Wolfowitz and saying "Hey, the Clinton military did a great job in Iraq, didn't it?" LOL! Wolfies response? "Fuck you."
Anyway, this was a fun book and I'd like to learn something new. I'm going to read them all eventually. Which one should I read next? Also, please feel free to recommend other books for future reading and tell me why you recommend it.
Thanks, Linda
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:07 PM
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1. Best Democracy Money can buy |
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is a *MUST* read for people like us.
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:08 PM
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2. "Dude, Where's My Country" by Michael Moore... |
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:11 PM
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5. yep.. I recommend Dude.. I loved it |
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:14 PM
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8. I looked at the review for that |
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and wasn't impressed. Did you really learn anything or was it just a comics point of view of what you already knew?
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Fri Oct-17-03 02:15 AM
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27. Franken has some substance in this one... |
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I found myself simultaneously very angry but laughing my ass off at the appropriate moment, due to how he delivered things. Don't go by tepid reviews, you know as well as anyone that goes to this discussion board that the media is not liberal!!
Read the Franken book!!
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Fri Oct-17-03 02:26 AM
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28. My comment was in regard to Dude, Where's My Country" by Michael Moore |
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I've mentioned later in this thread that Moore's books have been cited several times so I've decided to reconsider him as well.
I read Franken's book first and thoroughly enjoyed it.
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:14 PM
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Moore is in top form in his new book and very accusatory of the BFEE. He holds back no punch. At 40% off ($15.72), I couldn't resist buying it either.
The book is so delicious I just yummed it up! :9
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:08 PM
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3. All the above are great - here's a few more |
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Dude, Where's my Country and Stupid White Men both by Michael Moore The Clinton Wars by Sidney Blumenthal Anything written by Noam Chronsky (911, Media Distortion, etc.) Conscience of a Liberal by Paul Wellstone
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:13 PM
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6. I assume you mean Noam Chomsky? |
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:09 PM
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4. Read Paul Krugman's "The Great Unraveling" |
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Conason's book is good (I read the whole thing). But I suspect anyone posting here will not learn anything they don't already know.
Krugman, of course, is the master.
--Peter
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:13 PM
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:20 PM
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9. you really can't go wrong with any of them... |
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...Conason, Alterman, Ivins, all good stuff. Plus Begala's two books are great too.
I'm reading Moore right now and I don't think it's as good as his previous stuff, IMHO.
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:41 PM
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It's not, as you might imagine, just a gag book of *'s gaffes (of which there are many included), but a pretty comprehensive look at the pathology of a president who can't string words together to make a sentence about ideas he doesn't believe in.
Surprisingly heavy read.
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Wed Oct-15-03 02:55 PM
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11. All the Shah's Men by Stephen Kinzer (future consideration) |
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Edited on Wed Oct-15-03 02:57 PM by peekaloo
Here's a link to Amazon. True retelling of the 1953 coup, in alliance with the Brits, CIA overthrows a democratically elected leader, puts a puppet in his place, who himself is subsequently overthrown, yet the American media never mentions this during the '79 hostage situation. I'm 3/4 of the way through this one. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0471265179/102-2468913-2649736?v=glancep.s. a nice little "in your face" to all those "they hate us for our freedom" wankers.
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Wed Oct-15-03 03:02 PM
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12. Looks interesting and relevant to today |
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Wed Oct-15-03 03:28 PM
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13. Blinded by the Right by David Brock |
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He details all the dirty tricks played against Clinton, as he was part of it. He was friends with Ann Coulter, Laura Ingram, etc.
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Wed Oct-15-03 03:44 PM
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14. Weapons of Mass Deception by Sheldon Rampton & John Stauber |
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I'm reading that one now, an amazing look into the PR biz. It'll make your blood boil :grr:, your stomach turn :puke: and roll your eyes :eyes: with disgust. Very informative.
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Wed Oct-15-03 04:44 PM
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16. Review on this looks pretty good |
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Thanks for the suggestion!
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Wed Oct-15-03 04:11 PM
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the newest boondocks collection. has all the post9-11 stuff
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Wed Oct-15-03 04:47 PM
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17. Older book, but good one |
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Wed Oct-15-03 08:11 PM
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18. Just checked out the review |
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Looks like a good view of the early days of his political career - in which he didn't do much. (???) Gripes me to know end that someone so undeserving could hold the most prestigious office in the land.
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Wed Oct-15-03 08:19 PM
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19. I still laugh over this lil' story |
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Molly Ivin's humor remains intact despite the grim task at hand. Her funniest story in the book: Bush's slogan, "Juntos Podemos" or "Together, we can" was misspelled by the Houston Chronicle as "Juntos, Pedemos" or "Together, we fart."
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wish I had paid more attention to the Chronicle at the time!
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Wed Oct-15-03 08:43 PM
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20. LOL! Sounds like something vindictive he would actually say |
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Wed Oct-15-03 08:49 PM
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Unequal Protection: The Rise of Corporate Dominance and the Theft of Human Rights is another good one for your list.
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:08 PM
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22. My Current Recommended Reading List for Liberals: |
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Most of yours are on here, but there are others. I voted for Carville's "We're Right, They're Wrong" in your poll.
- Blinded by the Right: The Conscience of an Ex-Conservative
- The Clinton Wars, Sidney Blumenthal
- Living History, Hillary Rodham Clinton
- We’re Right, They’re Wrong, James Carville
- Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them: A Fair and Balanced Look at the Right, Al Franken
- Fortunate Son, J. H. Hatfield
- Shrub, Molly Ivins
- Bushwhacked, Molly Ivins
- The Great Unraveling, Paul Klugman
- Stupid White Men, Michael Moore
- Dude, Where’s My Country, Michael Moore
- The Best Democracy Money Can Buy: The Truth About Corporate Cons, Globalization and High-Finance Fraudsters, Greg Palast
- The Politics of Meaning, Michael Lerner
- Who Will Tell the People, William Greider
- The Past Has Another Pattern, George Ball
- Big Lies, Joe Conason
- The Conscience of a Liberal, Paul Wellstone
- Globalization and It’s Discontents, Joseph Stiglitz
- The Radical Center, Ted Halstead, Michael Lind
And, of course, any of the works by William Rivers Pitt.
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Wed Oct-15-03 09:30 PM
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24. That's an excellent list, SO!! Thanks!! |
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I should point out that I considered Will's books a given. I've reveiwed them and already planned on looking for a date he will be speaking in my area so I can get them autographed.
The book you mention "The Radical Center" is one that was mentionded some time back in another thread and I've been trying to put my finger on the name of it since then. I was hoping it would come up here - Thanks!!
This is an excellent and well rounded list and just what I was looking for. I'll check out the one's I don't have and add them to my next order list. I wasn't too impressed with Michael Moore but he has cropped up several times here so I'll not exclude those books.
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Wed Oct-15-03 11:36 PM
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25. Thanks for the suggestions, I'm going with |
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The Best Democracy Money Can Buy - Greg Palast. The Table of Contents alone looks pretty inviting. I just know this book is going to make me sick.
I've already started - the first section is on how the 2000 election was stolen in Florida. In 20 pages I have already learned a few new things. This is going to be interesting ...
Wonder if he Palast is going to do a story on the one that was just stolen in California ...
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Fri Oct-17-03 02:10 AM
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26. Have to kick this JUST to say that this is a MUST READ for DU |
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Edited on Fri Oct-17-03 02:12 AM by Booberdawg
The Best Democracy Money Can Buy by Palast should be required reading by everyone. Stunning. I'm almost finished with it. How the Florida 2000 vote was stolen alone is worth is worth twice the price of the book, and they are still doing it!! And, I didn't realize that Gore probably won Tennessee as well, did you?
More about how the groundwork for deregulation of power for the explicit purpose of exploiting the CA market as well. A fascinating read. A MUST READ for every DU member.
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Fri Oct-17-03 03:51 AM
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29. Perpetual War for Perpetual Peace- Gore Vidal and...... |
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Dude, Where's my country - M. Moore
Both quick and very informative reads, the former being more valuable.
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