Bush is the worst president since....who?

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

I'd like to know what you think on this one. Who was the last president in Bush's league of lousiness, and why?

[Richard Steele]

1. Since NO ONE. No US President in history has been as criminally-inclined or as utterly incompetent

He's the WORST of all possible worlds.

[peace frog]

15. Spot on

and hear hear!

[bhbwl]

38. Pontius Pilate

At least Pilate didn't know what he was doing.

[whistle]

2. Since George III

[The Magistrate]

4. You Beat Me To It, Sir!

[Richard Steele]

6. That was my first thought, but then I thought again.

I suppose the real difference between "George the IIIrd"
and "George the W" isn't the DICTATOR, it's the populace.

When you compare the two dictators, look at their ACTIONS,
and adjust the charts for the disparate social memes and levels
of technology...
Our "Founding Fathers" would have started shooting any asshole
wearing a uniform back around February 2001.

It's a FACT.

[The Magistrate]

7. You May Be Right, Sir

Revolution was somewhat easier then....

[Richard Steele]

11. You make a fine point- it was so much easier then.

Back then, the oppressive dictator was a foreigner,
and his minions wore distinctive garb.

All you had to do to "support the revolution" was to load
your rifle once, and then go about your daily business until
FATE offered you a clear shot at the back of a big red coat.

These days, the Dictator's supporters walk among us; they were born here
and they blend well into our crowds...
it's a lot more dificult to figure out who needs to be SHOT
than it used to be, Itellyawhut!

[whistle]

17. Was that how the American Revolution began as an insurgency against the British occupiers?

...It is very interesting how that action parallels what has happened and is still happening to the American occupiers in Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Zynx]

22. Bush is MUCH worse than George III.

[Ashy Larry]

3. Bush is in a league of his own.

Worst president ever.

[liberal1973]

18. No kidding, well

Reagan or perhaps Hoover.

Ok I give up! yeah Bushco. :party:

[mcctatas]

5. Pieter Willem Botha?

"Thousands were detained without trial during his presidency, while others were tortured and killed. The Truth and Reconciliation Commission found him responsible for gross violations of human rights<2>. It also found that he had directly authorised 'unlawful activity which included killing.'<3> However, he refused to apologise for apartheid. In an interview to mark his 90th birthday he suggested that he had no regrets about the way he ran the country.<4> He denied, however, that he had ever considered Black South Africans to be in any way inferior to whites, but conceded that "some" whites did hold that view. He also claimed that the apartheid policies were inherited from the British colonial administration in the Eastern Cape and Natal Province, implying that he considered them something he and his government had followed by default."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pieter_Willem_Botha#Apartheid_regime

(oh, you ment of the US, then I would say he's just the worst since, EVER? After all, 109 historians can't be wrong;) http://hnn.us/articles/48916.html )

[bluestateguy]

8. Warren Harding gets a bad rap

He wasn't great, but he was satisfactory. He kept the budget balanced and he was not involved with that whole Teapot Dome business.

[Adsos Letter]

9. Kaiser Wilhelm II...

another clown who liked to talk tough and start big wars...

[Golden Raisin]

10. He is unprecedented and the new gold

standard for worst. Our Constitution has been publicly raped for 7 years and the Republic bankrupted and in perilous, crippling and possibly inextricable longterm debt. There have certainly been previous administrations steeped in corruption and cronyism but the amounts of monies missing (i.e. pallets of cash in Iraq) and no-bid crony contracts handed out to well-connected companies (i.e. Halliburton) are staggering as is the bold-faced and arrogant audacity of the financial shenanigans. In addition, we have been given torture, Abu Ghraib, rendition, signing statements, unprecedented spying on citizens, the undermining and destruction of tri-partite government in favor of an immensely powerful presidency which believes and acts like it is above the Law, the elevation in status and use of private armies of paid mercenaries (i.e. Blackwater) and lots of Fear-mongering.

[cornermouse]

12. The worst, period.

[Ian David]

13. Hitler. n/t

[papapi]

14. Pol Pot?

or maybe Mousy Tongue?

[bhbwl]

28. Pol Pot and Mao Zedong were agrarian reformers...

chimpy is worse by far. He couldn't raise weeds.

[norepubsin08]

16. Once again as I have said...

Big business and the repukes have us right where they want us...just comfortable enough that the vast majority of us have housing and don't have to worry where the next meal is coming from, but scared enough to know that almost all of us are 3 paychecks or less away from hunger and homelessness. Couple that with a 3 second sound bite nation that doesn't value intellectualism and an attention span the size of a nats brain and you have a perfect recipe for disaster: a Bush!

[zonmoy]

19. Nixon

although he wasn't nearly as crooked. Maybe reagan with iran contra.

[crimanimalz]

20. all of them for the last 100 years?

[politicallore]

21. 90% say nixon in this poll...

http://www.politicallore.com/category/featured

[Karl_Bonner_1982]

23. I'm amazed that nobody mentioned the name Hoover

That is the name that I was thinking of when I started this thread. At least on economics, there's a huge parallel between the two.

[NoStinkinBadges]

30. Hoover?

But Hoover was a great.....vacuum.

[pam4water]

37. Yeah, but I really think he is a lot worse than Hoover...

I mean Hoover's hallmark was incompetence, while Bush combines (1) incompetence, (2) willful destruction and a hard to define (3)'Jonah' quality (as in Jonah and the Whale) that attracts calamity to everyone near him, but not himself. How can you beat that? Like I said below Augusto Pinochet was the closest I could think of.

[WhoIsNumberNone]

24. Bush is the Total Package

Useless Grant was probably as incompetent as a president, and his administration was at least as rife with corruption, and Calvin Coolidge's irresponsible economic policies -which were the model for Reaganomics- brought on the Great Depression, (notice, both Republicans) but neither of them showed the kind of contempt for law and the Constitution that this administration has. Also neither of them had the treasonous pedigree of George W Bush (father sold weapons to Iran, grandfather in league with the Nazis) If the Anti Christ is alive today, his name is Bush.

[Lefty48197]

25. Tie between Nixon and Hoover

Actually, since you asked "worst since..." there may not be any answer, since Bush's criminal incompetence has surpassed that of both Nixon and Hoover.

[JCMach1]

39. Harding was worse than Hoover, but Bush is now #1 at something at least

[sofa king]

26. I'm actually writing an article on that subject right now.

I picked four of the worst: Warren Harding, U.S. Grant, Nixon, and James Polk. From the pieces of those four miserable failures one can assemble a partial list of the crimes and scandals commonly attributed to Bush: corrupt Vice Presidents, old-boy insider corruption, misusing the CIA and FBI for political purposes, questioning the patriotism of opponents, overstepping authority, and starting a war on false pretenses.

In other words, if you ask me, Bush is worse than the next four worst Presidents combined.

We may print the article next month, or it might be held back until winter. Not really sure which yet, but when I do I'll be sure to float it here.

[hasbro]

31. My head say Buchanan

but my heart says Bush. Granted I didn't live through one.

But I agree, in any category you want to identify Bush ranks high on the list.

[AuH2O1776]

27. the worst and best

I think if we measured the presidents of the 20th century by their crappiness Woodrow Wilson would be first for suspending civil liberties and starting world war I, setting up for the practices of the neocons, then Herbert Hoover for screwing the Depression up even further than it was, then LBJ for starting Vietnam, then Bush, then Truman, just because he is so overrated.

Conversely, the my favorite five twentieth century presidents are 1. Eisenhower, 2. Kennedy, 3. Carter, 4. Reagan, and 5. Clinton

[Sallow]

29. Pretty good choices.

I would disagree with Reagan. His deregulation bonanza nearly caused the collapse of the United States Financial System and his outright defiance of Congress with relation to Central America caused some of the problems we are seeing today..that and financing the radicals in Afghanistan to fight the Soviets along with taking Iraq off the terrorist supporting list then funding their efforts against Iran puts him squarely in the "worst" list.

I would argue Grant was pretty bad..but he was drunk most of the time.

This is a pretty good list.

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/worstpresidents/

[paulthomson]

32. Damage done? Nixon comes in second

W is a clear first--he was trying to bring it down and damn near succeeded

[pam4water]

33. Since Augusto Pinochet, you have to go out of the country to find a president worce than Bush!

[anryboig]

34. Bush did not understand the economic situation

Judging from Bush's speech, he did not understand the situation. If I am wrong correct me, but his latest statement is very strange and almost no regard to the economy! / watch here: http://doiop.com/Bush-FOXnews (video 4 min) /

[lookbothways]

35. You guys really need to read history more

Yea Bush sucks on Frgn Plcy., Dip.Rel., Strategy, Public speaking, and good looks. But I haven’t heard enough about the worst of ALL presidents.
start here,

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/worstpresidents/

For economics Read “The Great Myths of the Great Depression” (you find out real quick that your high school teacher was not infallible)

[jagerbb]

36. Ask this question again in 4 years

You should probably ask this question again in 4 years.

-jag
http://thejagergazette.blogspot.com/

[xUVAxCharisma]

41. Not the worst ever

Bush wasn't in any shape or form a good president he still wasn't the worse. Bush was a victim of circumstances and he made the mistake by rushing into a war. Bush also was victim of a horrible, horrible congress. A congress that is giving Obama trouble already.

[david13]

40. Buchanan

But true pundits say Bush is worse.
dc