Damn Right Wing Tea Bagger Co-Worker ripping Obama!

[Beavker]

Sadly, I can't even argue his points anymore. I know where they are coming from though, and his 'alternatives' would differ, so it's still irritating...but I can't argue.

[adhd_what_huh]

1. I can and would.....you can and should.

[vi5]

2. I tried arguing with my mom yesterday....

...and she kept throwing things out there like

"Well if it is the wrong plan, then why did the President who you supported endorse it?"
"The President himself said John Boehner and the Republicans were working together with them and that they had the best interest of the country at heart....so why don't you believe him?"
"The President himself said we need to tighten our belts during times of economic distress like this. Don't you think HE knows better than you?"
"President Obama himself was critcizing liberals for being to ideologically rigid....so how can you say it's just the other side?"
"Nancy Pelos is to the left of even President Obama!!!"

And people on here wonder why we get so angry over his obsession with bipartisanship and with seeming like the adult in the room rather than a strong advocate for liberal causes.

The fact is that even if we can agree that as progressive citizens it's our job to get out there and make the case to people because the President can't do it all himsef.....that he's undermining our efforts.

[Eddie Haskell]

7. Tell your Mom, Obama asked for four trillion in cuts.

The other side balked.

[vi5]

9. She wasn't being anti-Obama....

She was pro-Obama because he was clearly in favor of cuts, was clearly o.k. with what the other side was asking of him. And that it was people like myself and Nancy Pelosi who were radical.

That's my point. Obama supposedly (biiiig supposition) wants us to make the case to our fellow citizens for what we want, but then he makes it more difficult by appearing to want as much or more of what the other side wants.

[lumpy]

3. After reading many of the posts on this forum I am becoming

enured to people ripping Obama.Hopefully they will see the light.

[libguy_6731]

8. +1

[Goldstein1984]

4. I've been in the same position

We seem to be on an unsustainable path out of step with human nature and nature as a whole--politically, socially, economically, ecologically.

An Obama loss in 2012 will bring on a frightening alternative to something I already consider frightening--a developing security state and the peasantification of American workers. If we lose we lose big. If we win, we still lose.

This is going to be an interesting and frightening decade. Our family is all moving back to Alaska to avoid what they fear is going to happen in the Lower 48. I've cashed out two private pensions I simply don't trust to be there when I retire. We've stopped all non-essential spending, or redefined "essential spending" as accumulating self-sufficiency supplies, building a greenhouse, installing a woodburning stove large enough to heat the house, and paying off secured debt (e.g. car loans) instead of buying more stuff.

[lumpy]

6. My folks moved back to Alaska in 1928, they saw the Big

depression coming. Fortunately they could return to homesteading and with a lot of elbow grease we had it quite good. They were fortunate in having the skills to live the pioneering life. And that is what it takes. I am in my last days otherwise I'd take the family and move that way myself. Just to get a breath of fresh air.

[dtexdem]

5. Actually, I do argue.

I note my problems with Obama and argue against stupid teabagger reasons to rip Obama.