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zanne
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Fri May-09-08 05:37 PM Original message |
Concealed Carry responsible citizen shoots and kills family. |
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Kali
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Fri May-09-08 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
1. "If we had a nickel... |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-13-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #1 |
141. Got me rolling! + a gazillion! |
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slackmaster
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Fri May-09-08 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
2. He gets a Darwin Award for taking himself out of the gene pool |
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rdenney
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Sat May-10-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #2 |
43. It very sad that he had the means of easy access to firearms too. n/t |
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Mountainman
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Fri May-09-08 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
3. If we had a nickle for evey law abiding gun owner who doesn't shoot people |
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mitchleary
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Fri May-09-08 05:57 PM Response to Original message |
4. So is that what it is |
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slackmaster
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Fri May-09-08 05:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. I think zanne's reasoning is more along the lines of this: |
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Beregond2
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Fri May-09-08 06:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. Exactly. |
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slackmaster
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Fri May-09-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I think killing random people with a car is just as easy if not easier |
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iverglas
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Fri May-09-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
22. AND YET NOBODY DOES IT |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Fri May-09-08 08:52 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. A man killed his girlfriend with his car here last month. |
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iverglas
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Sat May-10-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
72. yes, I just knew that would happen -- congratulations |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sat May-10-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
91. I guess you shouldn't have said "Nobody Does It" then. |
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iverglas
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Sat May-10-08 07:20 PM Response to Reply #91 |
94. no, what I shouldn't do |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sat May-10-08 08:54 PM Response to Reply #94 |
97. or that. |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-13-08 11:08 AM Response to Reply #72 |
144. ""Nobody does it" -- No! you're wrong! somebody did it!" |
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bossy22
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Fri May-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. you are wrong litter box breath |
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slackmaster
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Sat May-10-08 09:12 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. Actually, it happens all the time |
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iverglas
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Sat May-10-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #57 |
75. I'll be waiting |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #75 |
106. Man gets life term in crash killing 10 |
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rdenney
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Tue May-13-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #106 |
159. How typical! Must...change....gun-murder story..use standard NRA issued vehicle crash..obfuscation |
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slackmaster
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Tue May-13-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #159 |
163. Do try to follow the thread, rdenney |
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rdenney
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Tue May-13-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #163 |
169. Just my way of making a point to the unaware of how you gun-owners think. Obfuscation is what you... |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #75 |
107. Convicted in fatal crash as a teen, now facing DUI charge |
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Sun May-11-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
108. Fatal crash just the latest trouble for parolee |
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Sun May-11-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #75 |
109. Man gets 3 years for causing fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #75 |
110. Court: Man convicted in fatal N.M. crash won't get new trial |
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Sun May-11-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
111. Beverly officer to get a new trial in fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #75 |
112. Report: Motorcyclist going 90 mph in fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
113. Man convicted in fatal motorcycle crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #75 |
114. Jury: Dad was driving in fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #75 |
115. Teen charged in fatal crash |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #75 |
116. Opening statements heard in fatal 2006 crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #75 |
117. Repeat drunken driver sent to prison for fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
118. Driver in Fatal Crash a New Acquaintance |
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Sun May-11-08 12:36 PM Response to Reply #75 |
119. Doctor jailed in fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #75 |
120. State to pay $850,000 for fatal crash involving convict |
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Sun May-11-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
121. Man Sentenced To Prison For Fatal Crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #75 |
122. Man sentenced in last summer's double fatal crash |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
123. Driver had history with drugs |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #75 |
124. Driver of snowmobile in fatal crash pleads not guilty |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
125. Little Egg Harbor high school student, 17, charged in fatal crash |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #75 |
126. DA adds felony DUI charge in fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #75 |
127. Dump truck driver facing charges from fatal crash |
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Sun May-11-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #75 |
128. Parents criticise fatal crash extradition ruling |
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iverglas
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Sun May-11-08 03:34 PM Response to Reply #128 |
135. I don't actually plan to read the whole list |
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iverglas
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Sun May-11-08 03:37 PM Response to Reply #128 |
136. just to help you out a bit |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 04:38 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. People who die from negligent manslaughter are just as dead as people who are willfully murdered |
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iverglas
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Sun May-11-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #137 |
139. I'm really sure you're too smart to play this game |
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slackmaster
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Sun May-11-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #75 |
131. BTW - A comment on how statistics for fatal and non-fatal injuries are reported |
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dmiller
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Wed May-14-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #131 |
175. Fatal Injuries |
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rdenney
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Tue May-20-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #22 |
191. They dont nor do they care. As long as they have their guns nothing matters. nt |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-20-08 10:48 AM Response to Reply #191 |
192. Got another post to answer Rdenney |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-13-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #7 |
142. "I am about as even-tempered a guy as you could meet." |
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dmiller
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Tue May-13-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #7 |
152. Ludicrous |
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TPaine7
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Fri May-09-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
36. Where is the courage of her convictions? |
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TomInTib
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Fri May-09-08 06:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. It's those "car" nuts who scare the Hell outta me. |
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zanne
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Fri May-09-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. So that's why you have to carry a gun! |
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slackmaster
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Fri May-09-08 06:50 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I've concluded that zanne is incapable of carrying on a rational discussion in this forum |
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TomInTib
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Fri May-09-08 07:49 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I think that was some humor on zanne's part. |
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pipoman
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Fri May-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
29. Yea, you're probably right, she is known for her humor in these parts...n/t |
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zanne
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Fri May-09-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. Aw shucks. You make a girl blush. nt |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-13-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
145. +5 |
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mitchleary
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Fri May-09-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
38. Are you for real? |
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slackmaster
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Fri May-09-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Your thinking is realistic on that |
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iverglas
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Fri May-09-08 08:35 PM Response to Reply #6 |
20. it must be awful to live in such fear |
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TomInTib
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Fri May-09-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. "Fear" doesn't even enter the picture. |
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dmiller
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Tue May-13-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #20 |
153. Moronic |
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iverglas
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Tue May-13-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #153 |
155. you said it |
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dmiller
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Tue May-13-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #155 |
160. Auto |
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Tue May-13-08 12:45 PM Response to Reply #155 |
161. Deleted message |
iverglas
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Tue May-13-08 08:23 PM Response to Reply #161 |
170. one more for the ages |
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dmiller
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Tue May-13-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #155 |
162. Gangs |
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iverglas
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Tue May-13-08 08:25 PM Response to Reply #162 |
171. me? |
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dmiller
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Wed May-14-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #171 |
178. You! |
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gorfle
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Fri May-09-08 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
12. Virginia CCW statistics |
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iverglas
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Fri May-09-08 07:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. If that doesn't just beat all |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-13-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #13 |
146. This is what you mean |
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iverglas
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Fri May-09-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
14. more |
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slackmaster
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Sat May-10-08 09:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
58. So he was a known violent criminal after all |
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Fri May-09-08 07:17 PM Response to Original message |
15. What does a CCW permit have |
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slackmaster
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Sat May-10-08 09:32 AM Response to Reply #15 |
61. Nothing - this is a Domestic Violence case that slipped through the cracks |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Fri May-09-08 08:29 PM Response to Original message |
17. Wow you finally found one. |
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russ1943
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Fri May-09-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
41. There's been many others |
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Sat May-10-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. 7 cases = 35 cents |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sat May-10-08 09:56 AM Response to Reply #56 |
64. Cha-ching |
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Sat May-10-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
62. You are more likely to be murdered by a cop. |
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Sat May-10-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
71. but they'll just keep saying it |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sat May-10-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #71 |
92. The same kind of dunderhead that would propose taking weapons away from them. |
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iverglas
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Sat May-10-08 07:22 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. big fucking WHUP for you, pal |
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Sat May-10-08 07:23 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. but just out of curiosity |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sat May-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. You complained that nobody had responded to them, so I responded. |
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Sat May-10-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #96 |
99. It should also be noted that you responded to me. |
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Sat May-10-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #92 |
100. okay, explain how this even began to be rational |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Sun May-11-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #100 |
104. They do have low crime rates. |
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maxidivine
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Tue May-13-08 11:29 AM Response to Reply #71 |
147. Comparative studies |
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dmiller
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Tue May-13-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #41 |
158. Permits |
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iverglas
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Tue May-13-08 03:10 PM Response to Reply #158 |
168. where do you buy your spectacles? |
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dmiller
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Wed May-14-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #168 |
177. Your spectacles? |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Fri May-09-08 08:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. This doesn't change the fact that women should have access to firearms to protect them from rapists. |
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Fri May-09-08 08:38 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. yes, it's a fine point, and it needed to be made |
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Fire_Medic_Dave
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Fri May-09-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. It wouldn't surprise us at all if you were looking forward to it. |
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Fri May-09-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Wow, you're exactly right! |
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Sat May-10-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #34 |
76. Deleted sub-thread |
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Tue May-13-08 11:42 AM Response to Reply #34 |
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Tue May-13-08 12:21 PM Response to Reply #149 |
154. one of those things that needs preserving for posterity |
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Tue May-13-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
156. well, I guess all I can say is |
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Tue May-13-08 11:36 AM Response to Reply #18 |
148. Now you will be bashed |
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Fri May-09-08 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
19. In the end the killers are all Cowards... |
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Fri May-09-08 08:42 PM Response to Original message |
23. Concealed carry permit? According to whom? |
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Fri May-09-08 09:11 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. Great point n/t |
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zanne
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Fri May-09-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. Well, I think you guys are doing more for McCain than Rush Limbaugh... |
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Fri May-09-08 09:48 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. Please provide proof or pull the post sweetheart. |
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iverglas
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Sat May-10-08 01:57 PM Response to Reply #37 |
80. "proof" |
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Sat May-10-08 06:58 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. , I am asking for proof that the individual had a concealed carry permit. |
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Fri May-09-08 10:27 PM Response to Reply #31 |
39. How many guns laws |
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rdenney
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Sat May-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. Absolutely! Gun control laws have always been a core Democrat issue, and will be again too in 2009. |
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Sat May-10-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Wrong. |
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Sat May-10-08 07:18 AM Response to Reply #44 |
55. Yep a core issue which has arguably cost the party more |
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Sat May-10-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #44 |
86. it will most likely not be a big issue in the future |
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Tue May-13-08 11:07 AM Response to Reply #44 |
143. "core Democrat issue": maybe since you've been alive. Not since I've been. |
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Tue May-13-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #44 |
151. Yes they will |
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Sat May-10-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #31 |
45. "A traitor to your party"? What the HELL are you insinuating... |
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Tue May-13-08 11:46 AM Response to Reply #31 |
150. That's right, how dare you! |
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TPaine7
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Fri May-09-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Are the actual fact relevant? |
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russ1943
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Fri May-09-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
40. According to the Sheriff |
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Sat May-10-08 01:34 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. He had a fairly impressive arsenal but smaller than mine.. |
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zanne
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Sat May-10-08 11:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
65. So, if I got the Concealed Carry permit issuer to come to DU and prove it... |
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Sat May-10-08 11:57 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Just some proof would be nice. |
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Sat May-10-08 01:53 PM Response to Reply #23 |
79. I was curious too |
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TPaine7
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Fri May-09-08 09:14 PM Response to Original message |
28. Assuming that this story has some significance to public policy. . . |
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Fri May-09-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. Nope, no point, |
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iverglas
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Sat May-10-08 03:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
84. well ... |
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rdenney
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Sat May-10-08 12:03 AM Response to Original message |
42. This is so sad and so unnecessary. Perhaps Obama will reinstate the assault weapon ban again... |
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krispos42
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Sat May-10-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Ah, so we could have 4 handgun victims? |
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Tue May-13-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
166. Why do you include the murderer? |
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iverglas
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Wed May-14-08 03:06 PM Response to Reply #166 |
180. I love it when they fight among themselves |
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TPaine7
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Sat May-10-08 01:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. No disrespect, but |
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Sat May-10-08 02:00 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. self delete |
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rdenney
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Sat May-10-08 04:02 AM Response to Reply #48 |
53. What makes you think that I see the difference? A gun simply makes killing easier for these insane.. |
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slackmaster
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Sat May-10-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #53 |
60. Insane people aren't supposed to have guns |
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Sat May-10-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. The solution is to have people in the MH system now reported to the authorities until such time as.. |
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Sat May-10-08 05:40 PM Response to Reply #68 |
90. A reasonable proposal. |
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rdenney
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Sat May-10-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #90 |
101. Thanks! n/t |
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Sun May-11-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #68 |
129. People who are mentally ill have civil rights too |
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Sat May-10-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
82. Your statement. . . |
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Sat May-10-08 02:03 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Sorry, the assault weapons ban was a TOTAL failure.. |
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Sat May-10-08 03:42 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. It was only a failure because it didnt outlaw existing assualt weapons. Had that been the case you. |
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Sat May-10-08 07:04 AM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Why, exactly what do you believe the result would be? |
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Sat May-10-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #54 |
102. That is NOT an assault weapon. No bayonet lug, no pistol grip, no large capacity magazines... |
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Sun May-11-08 05:10 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. The point is that it is identical in function |
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Sun May-11-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #102 |
130. it says nothing about a large capacity magazine |
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Sun May-11-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #102 |
133. hmm...it actually can be considerd an AW |
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Sat May-10-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Do you believe that "assault weapons" were used in a lot of homicides? |
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Sat May-10-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
69. that is called confiscation |
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Sat May-10-08 01:16 PM Response to Reply #69 |
73. A video on the Katrina gun confiscation... |
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Sat May-10-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #73 |
78. and there was outcry in the govt |
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Sat May-10-08 04:50 PM Response to Reply #78 |
89. True, but rest assured that if a major catastrophe happens... |
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Sat May-10-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
103. I agree that door to door confiscations wont happen but we can capture many of these guns by using. |
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Sun May-11-08 01:05 PM Response to Reply #103 |
132. i think |
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Sat May-17-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #69 |
183. We need only correct the law so that one AW is not allowed over another... |
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Mon May-19-08 06:30 PM Response to Reply #183 |
186. Several million Mini-14 and Mini-30 rifles are owned by people |
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Sat May-10-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #42 |
59. You of all people know that Presidents don't write laws, rdenney |
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Sat May-10-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. The president sets the tone and signs gun control into law. nt |
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Sat May-10-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. it is true that presidents can help push legislation through |
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Mon May-12-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #59 |
140. Thanks for the welcome. Yes, Presidents can influence gun laws like Bill Clinton did. n/t |
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Sat May-10-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #42 |
70. this would have been done with or without an AWB |
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Sat May-10-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
74. btw if you read the article |
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Sat May-10-08 03:45 PM Response to Reply #74 |
83. ????? |
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Sat May-10-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #83 |
85. my bad |
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Sat May-10-08 02:55 PM Response to Original message |
81. seven recs? |
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Sat May-10-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
87. 8 recs!!!!! |
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Sat May-10-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. 8 recs!!!!! |
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Sun May-11-08 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
134. I'm really surprised you think this man was a responsible citizen. |
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Sun May-11-08 08:01 PM Response to Original message |
138. Anti's just keep getting pwned. |
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Tue May-13-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #138 |
157. you seem to be reading some other thread |
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Tue May-13-08 01:29 PM Response to Reply #157 |
164. Anti's |
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Wed May-14-08 10:52 AM Response to Reply #138 |
173. Pummeled |
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Tue May-13-08 02:30 PM Response to Original message |
165. This post is also about $300 in nickels, if not less... |
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Tue May-13-08 02:54 PM Response to Reply #165 |
167. Stats |
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Wed May-14-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #167 |
172. Yeah, I know. You are way more likely to die from prescription medicine, but anti's think... |
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Wed May-14-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #172 |
174. and firearms save so many more lives |
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Wed May-14-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #174 |
176. Replies |
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Wed May-14-08 03:02 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. well jeez |
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Wed May-14-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #174 |
181. Well, at least you just sidestepped making a counterpoint by making a sorta related point. |
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Sat May-17-08 05:11 AM Response to Reply #174 |
184. You cant expect replies for a survey which was meant to be flawed to begin with, can you? |
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Tue May-20-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #184 |
190. Why is that so unbelievable for you? |
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Fri May-16-08 11:00 AM Response to Original message |
182. Looks like you just got a nickel to me ... |
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Mon May-19-08 03:39 PM Response to Original message |
185. Bullshit. |
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Mon May-19-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #185 |
187. that "you are 62 times more likely to kill a family member than a criminal" crap |
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Tue May-20-08 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
188. this article |
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Tue May-20-08 08:26 AM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Concealed Carry Laws aren't about crime reduction |
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Tue May-20-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. and this |
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Tue May-20-08 01:02 PM Response to Reply #193 |
194. How about broken down state by state |
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Tue May-20-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #194 |
195. okay -- start with Florida |
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