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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:08 PM Original message |
Guns save lives? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. A gun is a tool so powerful that it can only be used for good or evil |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. This is how 99.9%+ of defensive gun uses end up |
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Wcross (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. I believe the anti's need dead bodies to prove the usefulness of guns in self defense. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yeah, that was billbuckhead's screaming point |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
4. Stupid assumptions |
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mitchleary (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 12:46 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. And |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. The fact remains |
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mitchleary (271 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 08:48 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. again |
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Dean Martin (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 06:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
71. b.s. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. According to the National Crime Victimization Survey, |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 04:17 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. "killology" |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Here's a critical review of Grossman's arguments, from a LEO trainer. |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 04:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Thanks! NT |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 07:32 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. WOOOMP! |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
9. But we need even more assumptions |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 02:38 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. You do have a point... |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 03:35 PM Response to Reply #4 |
11. I feel ALOT luckier if I have the gun to begin with, then if I don't. |
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maxidivine (356 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 04:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Jim Cirillo |
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mvccd1000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-22-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #4 |
15. No assumptions there.... |
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Turbo Teg (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-23-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. . |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
34. Consider the fact that she had a gun and the fact that she retrieved it when threatened. |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-28-08 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
19. "maybe he just would have taken your money and left peacefully" |
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radioburning (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-04-08 10:01 PM Response to Original message |
20. Where are all the anti's now? Chirp chirp. If the victim was a man though...n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-04-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. okay |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 07:42 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Hmm. Which way to run? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 11:59 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. there ya go |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 12:57 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Well... |
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radioburning (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 05:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Those are a lot of What if's that have to fall into place to not get stabbed, shot, or raped, |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 06:39 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I'm so glad I live where I live |
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radioburning (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. That sounds like a nice way to live. Unfortunately the whole world is not exactly... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-06-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. funny thing |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 05:43 AM Response to Reply #28 |
33. So you would run outside if someone was trying to enter your home? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. uh, yeah |
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Howzit (918 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 02:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. "I'm a member of the public whom nobody is actually gunning for" |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #26 |
40. Yep, usual senseless ASSumptions by antis |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Deleted sub-thread |
AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 05:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
27. In THIS country |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 06:52 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I just dunno |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jun-05-08 07:05 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Well your post made some assumptions. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 04:07 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. yeah, it did |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:10 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. That's a big post. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 03:32 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. you continue to substitute straw for me |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Fight or flight. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I beg your pardon |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:40 PM Response to Reply #45 |
52. so, you care nothing if someone dies |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:42 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. I care nothing if a gun militant dies? |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:49 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. wow, finally straight and simple, I'm impressed. n/t |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Again, building layout. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. and now for the real issue |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. Intruder lunging at me with a knife |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 10:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. there ya go |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion. |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 02:50 AM Response to Reply #45 |
66. You think it's bad in most US States, stay the hell out of Texas..... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 03:22 AM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Texas is freakin' wierd. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 12:44 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. and it has fire ants |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-07-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. One minor point |
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solinvictus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 10:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. My apartment... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:21 PM Response to Reply #39 |
47. that's nice |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:22 PM Response to Reply #38 |
48. and they say men have good spacial arrangement skills ... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #48 |
58. Keep making assumptions. |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
46. if all else fails, just fail some more |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
49. great big newsflash for you |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:34 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. So everyone should simply rely on you and you only |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:44 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. hey, if you're asking for a lecture on the nature of collective rights |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. quit babbling, #48 had nothing to do with Canada n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. EXACTLY! |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #57 |
62. You said: |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I meant #27 - ie: "this country" is not Canada, your Canada rant is moot n/t |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. FUCKING DUH |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-08-08 06:24 PM Response to Reply #20 |
50. Too busy beating the snot out of their cat |
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rdenney (432 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-09-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. How often do you beat your boyfriend ? |
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