Quebec ponders provincial gun registry

[alp227]

Quebec is considering the idea of having its own long-gun registry if the federal government scraps the current version.

Public Security Minister Robert Dutil told The Canadian Press that civil servants are considering a so-called "plan B" — a provincial registry — if the Conservatives deliver on their promise to ditch the federal one.

full: http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2011/07/10/quebec-registry-gun.html

[sharp_stick]

1. Hey they've got nothin' but cash

the bridges and highways are crumbling but I'm sure they'll be able to come up with a few hundred million for a useless registry.

[SteveM]

10. What I was thinking. Man, the economy there must be great. nt

[gejohnston]

2. Liberals and Quebicis Bloc were the only parties voting for it in 1995

The NDP (party of Tommy Douglas, to the left of Liberal Party) and the Greens joined the Tories voting against it.

[ileus]

3. Let's hope they ditch it....maybe freedom will catch on.

[applegrove]

4. Good for Quebec. And they'll be a good source of stats on gun safety into the future because

they have a registery.

[PavePusher]

5. Hahaha, hahahha, hahahahahhaahhha, hahaheheheheee.... wooooo.....

Please, explain that one for us?

[gejohnston]

6. I already know the answer

The Canadian federal government has had the long gun registry since 1995, handguns since 1934, and machine guns since 1953. Machine guns were sort of banned in 1977 when they came up with the licensing scheme. Done zip, nada, nothing but cost the Canadian tax payer money better spent else where. In fact, most provinces refuse to enforce it including Ontario. So if the OPP, Alberta Sheriffs, or most local cops find an unregistered gun, no big deal. The RCMP, on the other hand, you have a problem maybe. New Zealand in the 1980s, law enforcement lobbied parliament to abandon registration because it sucked money and manpower and did nothing in return.

The Canadian federal registry has major compliance problems, I doubt Quebec will fare much better than the feds.

[slackmaster]

7. There's a place with about 4 times the population of Quebec that's had a registry since 1968...

...for handguns. It's called California. A person who is inclined to look for statistical evidence of the effectiveness of a gun registry at a state or provincial level within a federation of states with open mutual borders need look no farther.

[DonP]

8. Registry fans aren't big on discussing results I've noticed

They seem to avoid any discussion of the actual effectiveness of their registries, once they get put in place.

Just like that CDC report on all those studies on the impact of gun control on crime and violence as the AWB expired? Their only answer when the CDC said, "there was no measurable impact on crime or violence", Well obviously we need to do more studies.

When they are forced to look at the results, or lack thereof, the answer is that we need every state to register all firearms and firearm owners for it to "really work".

For decades that's how Daley played it here in Chicago and now Rahm looks to be following in his footprints. The only reason all his registries, laws and bans weren't reducing gun violence were all those evil people in Indiana and Iowa with guns. He never got around to explaining why Indiana and Iowa weren't violent.

Once again, it's about the control.

[friendly_iconoclast]

9. Calls for mandatory registration are more for "gun *culture* control" than "gun control"

As you and others have pointed out, they are decidedly averse to discussing actual results.


I think gun control advocates have long since abandoned the idea (if they ever had it in the first place) of controlling crime

by controlling guns, and just want to hinder legal gun owners any way they can- Chicago and the Daley regime are the most

blatant examples.


They wanted a culture war, they started it, they waged it enthusiastically- and now they're losing it.


Fuck 'em. The nation and the Democratic Party are better off without their influence.

[Glassunion]

11. That's government!

It failed... So... Do it all over again. How are they going to justify the expense?