IamK
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:15 PM
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NYC - 31 people shot citywide in 48 hours |
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:33 PM
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1. Gee, don't miss the opportunity to peddle more guns.... |
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Which should make things much better.
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Wed Sep-07-11 08:16 AM
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Forbidden item in NYC.
No opportunity for self defense.
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Wed Sep-07-11 08:20 AM
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They just fall out of the sky.
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Wed Sep-07-11 09:27 AM
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just go in a gun store in NY? Going across state lines has been against two current federal gun laws.
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:38 PM
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2. How many of those shot |
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could have defended themselves with a gun? How many were criminals doing criminal shit? How many of the shooters wouldn't have tried it at all if they thought the shootee could shoot back?
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:46 PM
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5. A desperado isn't accessing the odds of being shot ,more armed people |
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will make more dead people.All the criminals were doing all the criminal shit.
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:57 PM
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9. Actually, DOJ interviews with inmates show criminals fear armed victims more than police. n/t |
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Tue Sep-06-11 09:40 PM
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14. "More armed people will mean more dead people" Not in the US in recent years. n/t |
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Wed Sep-07-11 03:47 PM
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:24 PM
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21. Desperados arent bulletproof. |
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And they know it. That's because they are living organisms with an innate sense of self preservation.
Getting shot hurts. Getting medical treatement requires the attending physician to notify the authorities in the event of a gunshot wound. A GSW at a hospital will prompt all sorts and kinds of uncomfortable questions that an incapacitated desperado would like very much to avoid.
You can be sure the desperadoes are aware of that fact.
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Wed Sep-07-11 03:51 PM
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27. And there not as introspective as you give them credit ,Desperate people |
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don't think of the consequences of their actions ,because their Desperate.
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Wed Sep-07-11 04:07 PM
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at peace with one's self to want to avoid having holes punched on them.
Your condescension is palpable. Don't infantilize people because they're criminals. If someone is truly that much of a berzerker all the more reason to use a gun to stop them.
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Wed Sep-07-11 05:49 PM
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32. Your right about my lack of respect for the maturity of a criminals ,it's ignorant |
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I'm told ,your right.But I still know the numbers show our country has the most ,wars excluded ,Deaths accidental and intentional due to firearms in the world.
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Wed Sep-07-11 07:23 PM
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We are a violent people. Our national identity was forged in war and oiled with wealth. We a are a great lumbering imperielist power. And we have more guns than anyone.
But the guns do not define us or impel us to be who we are. I think it is unwise to ascribe to them more symbolic power than they deserve.
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Wed Sep-07-11 04:11 PM
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29. Not all criminals are Jean Veljean, either. |
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They may be miserable, but that doesn't make them Les Misérables.
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Wed Sep-07-11 05:35 PM
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30. Got me there ,Good one!!! |
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Wed Sep-07-11 05:39 PM
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are far less Jean Valjean and more like J. Random Crackhead. They simply do not wish to live by the rules of society, preferring to steal, rape, kill, whatever to get what they want.
For every pathetic criminal who only stole some bread to feed his family, you've got thousands who killed to get a pair of shoes, or raped for the hell of it, or stole because they didn't want to pay for it.
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:40 PM
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3. Acually they are improving! Last report was 24 in 24hours, now 31 in 48hrs. n/t |
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:47 PM
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6. Did they fail to factor in the holiday? |
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:46 PM
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4. You may be too young to remember this, |
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but there are 8 million stories in the Naked City.
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Tue Sep-06-11 09:24 PM
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Tue Sep-06-11 09:39 PM
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13. Naked City- a great movie and TV show. n/t |
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:00 PM
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16. Yup. I remember that program on TV. (n/t) |
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Wed Sep-07-11 01:40 PM
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25. I believe that was where I first heard of a .357 "that could penetrate a motor block!" nt |
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Tue Sep-06-11 09:25 PM
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12. and this has been one of them.............. |
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:51 PM
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7. And nearly every comment to the article in stupid. |
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Amazing amount of ignorance and hate.
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Tue Sep-06-11 08:54 PM
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8. Ignorance and Hate? Where? n/t |
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Tue Sep-06-11 09:08 PM
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10. Ignorance, as in using incorrect words? |
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Tue Sep-06-11 09:48 PM
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15. That cannot be true. NY has very strict gun laws. Your information must be wrong! |
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:06 PM
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19. That's right. Only the rich, the famous and the well connected can legally own firearms ... |
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in the Big Apple.
If only the rest of the nation had the same laws as New York City the rich and powerful could live in a paradise that would resemble the old feudal society that existed in the middle ages.
That's exactly what the founding fathers dreamed off.
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:21 PM
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:05 PM
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17. And that's why I don't live in NYC |
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Tue Sep-06-11 10:05 PM
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18. time to ban gunshows in Virginia... |
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Thu Sep-08-11 05:33 PM
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34. they never say how many had conceal carry permits. and the circumstances, this is the first with |
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some info..
i lived in Nopomo, they had a terrible gun and gang problem. for a month they played a series of videos about, "don't use a gun" "if you show a gun in a confrontation the police will shoot you dead with no warning.!!" the next couple months removed quite a few Darwin Award candidates, but then the gun slinging faded away and things quieted down.
just like when Beaverton passed the law that anyone committing a crime in or about a car would lose the car, even if borrowed, and go to jail, crime vanished, the hookers and drug dealers had to go to Portland to make a living.
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