They threatened to starve and drown those that would save my life, Castle law allows me to

[WingDinger]

follow their evil asses down the street! Good samaritan law allows me to do as I must to protect them against clear, treasonous threats.

Watch my language? Come and get some sadofascists.

[brooklynite]

1. Amazing as it sounds...

...I have no idea what you're talking about.

[MineralMan]

2. What are you talking about here?

This really doesn't make any sense to me.

[LaurenG]

3. what...

What ever you are thinking I missed out on the first part.

[ProdigalJunkMail]

4. Channeling DUer RandomThoughts? nt

[FSogol]

7. Former DUer Random Thoughts

Epitaph: He was due beer and travel money...

[WingDinger]

9. ? why former?

[FSogol]

11. He was tombstoned a couple of months ago. n/t

[Odin2005]

40. He told Skinner to "fuck off", the result was predictable.

[Iggo]

18. ...and many experiences.

:toast:

[slackmaster]

41. He was one of my favorite people on DU

[WingDinger]

5. Norquist automatons want to starve the GOV, and then drown it in the bathtub.

We are the Gov. Now, taking out them sonzabeaches by vote is hateful and dangerous tone. I am using winger concepts, to make it all seem idiotic.

[FSogol]

6. Context! It's not just for breakfast anymore!

:shrug:

[WingDinger]

8. Then you wouldnt have to think.

[FSogol]

13. You know, there are whole worlds that you don't even know exist.

I'm speaking of course, of the world of Invisible Scary Skeletons.

:shrug:

[gratuitous]

10. I got it from the get-go

But I take no pride in that.

[Mugweed]

12. You mean Norquist-esque sayings to drown the government in a bathtub

I get it.

[eShirl]

14. No offense, but you sound like a nut.

Not that there's anything wrong with that.
:sarcasm:

[WingDinger]

15. desperately seeking to sound like the only adult in the room is why we lose the debate.

Media doesnt pay attention. I think those that bring assault rifles to pol. speeches should be brought up on RICO charges. See how they like that.

[eShirl]

16. I like Hoffa's speech. Your OP, not so much.

[WingDinger]

20. I'm crushed.

[eShirl]

22. You'll get over it.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

24. "seeking to sound like the only adult in the room is why we lose the debate"

Then, to whom are you appealing for an audience, petulant children on the verge of violent tantrums?

[WingDinger]

25. Unfortunately, we have to vie for drama coverage with the bleed lead press.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

27. I understand what you are driving at but again I have to question

whether or not this is the audience you want.

You're only going to get 2 reactions: disapproval or approval

The former hurts you -- and so will the latter. The kind of person that agrees with the sentitments in the OP may well be dangerous.

Remember that guy that shot the cops after listening to Glenn Beck? Surely you don't want one of those for your very own. You will, however, get plenty of news coverage if you do.

[WingDinger]

28. I want to cheerlead a hostile response to any and all teabag/GOP utterances.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

29. isn't inciting violence in politics

A) illegal

B) the sort of fascist behavior progressives should condemn

C) illegal

[WingDinger]

31. Hostile response being violent? Angry tone being harm?

[Nuclear Unicorn]

32. Do you think you can kick the keystone of hostility

and aguarantee where and how it rolls after that.

Appeals to hostility are wrong. People who thrive on hostility suffer from the same banality that has plagued our species with war and savagery for thousands of years.

Stop preaching hatred of "the other" and accept what this world really needs are people who courageous enough to build, not destroy.

[WingDinger]

33. Read your labor history. Soothing words and actions are ignored.

Bullies dont respond to pleas of cant we all just get along. The elites must taste fear, or they will steamroll us all.

And we must get people to the polls. That takes extreme discontent, and some fear.

[nadinbrzezinski]

34. You are comparing a single op

With methodical stochastic terrorism?

Seriously.

[Nuclear Unicorn]

35. You claim its "a single OP"

He claims to cite history

Aren't you fond of claiming past is prologue.

And it's not a single OP. This nonsense is getting louder and louder at this forum every day. Something stupid is going to happen and the forum is going to get swept up in it.

We don't have violent strike breakers today so the need to counter with violence or resort to hostile rhetoric is mystifying. Talk violently and the other side will respond by being on guard for violence. It's called escalation. How anyone could tolerate or encourage escalation over politics is tragic. Someone has to be rational. Do you really want violence in the streets of the US?

We ask the RWers and the middlers who hear them to step back and be reasonable when it comes to realizing that homosexuals, undocumented workers and the "swarthy skinned others" are not their enemy. Inane rants in mosques a thousand miles away have mushroomed into justifications for a global war. But why should those responding to those inane rants believe us when we tolerate chest-thumping mongerers in our midst. I'm starting to think the entire peace movement here was just a anti-GOP political prop. People here -- with rare exception -- only want peace and tolerance when it disarms others. All the while they're sharpening thei own knives for their own profits.

So much internet tough-guy talk. So little imagination for peace in the name of love for our fellow man.

[nadinbrzezinski]

36. You are right..something is going to happen

Something ugly, and violent...we are inexorably moving to civil war. Alas it is not coming from here.

And yes, you are comparing a single op with stochastic terrorism. Point to the op's purposeful mechanism for pushing it.

[WingDinger]

37. While there are no violent strikebreakers to cave skulls, denying a safety net to vulnerable peoples

is killing them. Make no mistake, it is violent to leave humans to die a painful, healthcare free death. It is violent to make children starve. It is violent to work to make the elderly die of cold and humger.

You have comsumed the Rove koolaid that says liberals are passive and silent.

[FSogol]

38. Response of the day (um, make that - of yesterday). So much truth here.

Thank you, Nukey U.

I'll never fault liberals for taking the higher ground or for desiring peace.

[WingDinger]

39. There are, or should be FACTIONS. Monks and otherwise.

As the tea party does all the insane ranting to get their side and issues attention and legitimacy, should should or must a faction of the Dem demographic be visibly pissed. Sure, let our leadership maintain decorum. But you had best have some that move the middle back at least till some of us recognize it. The middle has been shoved and hauled far to the right. And our measured tone aint gettin it where the status quo goes fascist.

[SteveM]

42. You had pro & con confused up til now. Why stop when you're on a roll?

Well, Feinstein brought one to a political speech. No RICO charges.

[kentauros]

21. Almond Joy

:P

[TheMadMonk]

17. The unspoken word is "gun". - Castle law. Good Samaritan law.

Some variants of Castle Law permit "hot pursuit" of an offender caught in the act.

Good Samaritan laws can under certain circumstances permit a person to kill in defense of others.

Play fast and loose enough with creative reasoning, the two can be mashed together to justify a second ammendment solution to the banks, war mongers, insurers, oil companies, you name it.


But I suspect the US would have to go the way of Libya before there's any chance the argument would stand up.

[WingDinger]

19. Thanx for gettin' it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

30. We may be closer than I am comfortable thinking about

For different reasons...Calhoun dems and the modern RNC comes to mind.

[dionysus]

23. you're due beer and travel money, and many experiences.

[WingDinger]

26. I bequeath to youall my grain based beverages and TSA groping/experiences

[iverglas]

43. so this started out in GD and got flushed here

Maybe if I knew the reason for the disposal, I'd have a clue what it's about ...

Is there something to do with firearms policy going on here?


edit ... reading some more, I'm getting some idea ... still nothing to do with firearms policy. Is this place really just the septic tank for disposal of unwanted threads from elsewhere? (no comment on this thread, just wondering about the reason for the transfer here)

When it comes to the right wing, I'm in favour of calling them what they are and not mincing words, myself.

For example, the anti-choice brigade seeks to violate women's fundamental human rights and to harm women. That is their goal. They can call themselves whatever they like, "pro-life" included, but their true and only goal is to have public policies adopted to ensure that women are treated like subhuman beings and to cause harm, up to and including death, to women.

The goal of people who oppose universal health care is to ensure that people suffer and die.

The right wing does not get to frame the issues, most especially when the issues are matters of life and death.

If calling them what they are exposes them to hatred and contempt ... who is responsible for that?

They're the ones who make their choices. Let them stand up and own them.

Am I getting the idea here? ;)


and further edit ... after reading a little further ... the subthread just above this ... I still don't think it has aything to do with firearms policy ...

Calling the right wing what it is, is one thing. This may be another.

The anti-choice brigade chooses to call its murders "defence of others" and the like. It loses tht argument.

The only way around the fact that pre-emptive homicide is not permissible in liberal democracies is to have a revolution. Then you're talking the collective right of self-determination, exercised against egregious wrongs.

Problem is, when you have the victims of the wrongs voting for the perpetrators of them, it ain't gonna happen.

[X_Digger]

44. I'm scratching my head, too..

Did the inclusion of 'Castle law' determine it's ultimate location? Ehn.

[iverglas]

45. programmed to search GD for code words ;)

Posts 17 and 19 kinda get to a point ...