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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:01 PM Original message |
Were the WTC towers demolished with explosives? |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. JOTS! |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. I've just been scanning the article |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Aug-08-06 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:10 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Yes, the article is full of idiotic nonsense |
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tabatha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. planting of explosives |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Two things... |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:47 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. then pray tell please explain... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:06 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Gee, maybe because |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Oh... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Not sure who you think you're fooling. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
23. I don't know who you think ... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:55 AM Response to Reply #23 |
35. Controlled demo experts say that the buildings were not brought down by |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
57. What WTC6 has to do the subject matter |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:13 PM Response to Reply #57 |
59. Thank you petgoat 4... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:49 PM Response to Reply #57 |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:58 PM Response to Reply #63 |
67. None showing significant damage. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 10:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
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Ka hrnt (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 10:12 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. You are wrong! |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 10:25 PM Response to Reply #83 |
84. I might well be... |
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Ka hrnt (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:09 PM Response to Reply #84 |
102. Of course! |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:54 AM Response to Reply #67 |
97. Your post is misleading. Here's just one of the pics again: |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:33 PM Response to Reply #97 |
101. Why was this photo a secret for 5-1/2 years? |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 09:07 PM Response to Reply #101 |
104. Because *they* were saving it to post a 'gotcha' at DU years later, |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:18 PM Response to Reply #104 |
106. Well, someone almost let the cat out of the bag back in June 2004. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:22 PM Response to Reply #106 |
107. You're focussing on the least interesting question: When was it released? |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. According to www.archive.org.. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:36 AM Response to Reply #107 |
109. Why haven't so called "9/11 truth seekers" found it? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 01:55 AM Response to Reply #109 |
112. Ummm, excuse me |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:19 AM Response to Reply #112 |
114. How can it be "secret" if it's on a publicly available website? |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:52 AM Response to Reply #114 |
115. It wasn't a secret. The CTers just weren't looking. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:56 AM Response to Reply #115 |
116. What? You mean calling a receptionist isn't truth seeking? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #114 |
117. It was certainly secret to FEMA, who apparently found no plausible |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:42 AM Response to Reply #117 |
119. Here's a clue |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:57 AM Response to Reply #119 |
120. Unavailable to FEMA = secret. Your photos, no comment. nt |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:19 AM Response to Reply #120 |
125. That makes no sense. n/t |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:05 AM Response to Reply #117 |
121. a google search doesn't turn it up? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 03:05 AM Response to Reply #114 |
118. dupe delete nt |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Yes, but don't tell the CTers... they still don't know it exists.... |
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emcguffie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 05:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
99. Both towers ofthe WTC were designed to withstand the impact-- |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 10:01 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. They were indeed so designed howerver... |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 07:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
50. One interesting item I just read as I go through this |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. Good point. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
65. So it's your guess that the editor of Implosion World |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:59 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Yes this is a mistake. |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Do you really believe that? WTC7 was all of 14 years old, |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
18. Would explosives even remain viable all this time? |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Doubtful. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
22. I agree |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:20 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Agreed. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:29 AM Response to Reply #5 |
15. ... or have been performed completely undetected, in advance... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:32 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Tsk tsk. More selective quote mining by the CT brigade. |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:10 PM Response to Reply #16 |
54. All quotations are selective. (n/t) |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. That's a fact. A glaringly obvious fact in fact. n/t |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:25 PM Response to Reply #54 |
72. . |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
74. Post 16 is technically redundant, while yours is ignorant. Quote Mining: |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:52 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. I see you've never written a research paper. |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 05:36 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. . |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
93. You haven't a clue, really, do you? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 09:26 PM Response to Reply #74 |
80. Dr. Van Romero said it looked just like controlled demolition. |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 01:42 AM Response to Reply #74 |
90. You're right, it was technically redundant since it |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:07 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. And, in turn, you are correct. :) nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:41 AM Response to Reply #92 |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 10:56 AM Response to Reply #110 |
126. . |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 09:54 AM Response to Reply #3 |
51. The contention in the the "Implosion World" article that "several |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:04 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yes, obviously. |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Thank you! |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:17 AM Response to Original message |
13. It's good to see demolition experts speaking up |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:36 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. You don't know what you're talking about. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:04 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. More mistruths from 9-11 Truthers |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:26 AM Response to Reply #19 |
25. Dr. Van Romero never retracted the statement that the collapse looked |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. You're selectively quoting Van Romero in order to mislead people about |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I am not misleading anyone. Dr. Romero said the collapse looked |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:33 AM Response to Reply #29 |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:12 AM Response to Reply #31 |
38. What exactly is my alleged problem? nt |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:18 AM Response to Reply #38 |
45. You have to ask? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:23 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. I'm asking for specifics. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:45 AM Response to Reply #47 |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:27 AM Response to Reply #47 |
94. Fortunately, |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 12:34 PM Response to Reply #94 |
98. I don't often have to point out to the court the obvious about CTers |
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Grateful for Hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 06:27 PM Response to Reply #98 |
100. LOL!! n/t |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 08:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
103. *you* might try on an argument like that |
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Ka hrnt (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 07:11 PM Response to Reply #26 |
78. Don't you love this? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 09:01 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Why does that boggle the mind? |
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Ka hrnt (235 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 09:34 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. That's rational? Yikes. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 10:45 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. You are mischaracterizing the statements. |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 11:39 PM Response to Reply #85 |
86. I agree with you... |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
34. More mistruths from 9-11 Truthers |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:04 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Dr. Romero did not retract his statement that the collapse looked like CD. |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:15 AM Response to Reply #36 |
44. Your analogy skills are still at kindergarten level, goat. |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:24 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Van Romero's initial statement |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:10 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. No, it's you who doesn't know what you're talking about. |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:28 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. Dr. Romero agrees with himself: it looked like controlled demolition. |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:29 AM Response to Reply #27 |
28. I'm a "freeper"? |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:32 AM Response to Reply #28 |
30. Stop spamming about yourself. Go to DU Lounge. nt |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:34 AM Response to Reply #30 |
32. You're the one throwing the freeper label around, goat, to anyone |
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BrokenBeyondRepair (642 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 01:11 PM Response to Reply #28 |
55. if it walks like a duck... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:45 AM Response to Reply #55 |
124. You may be right.... the goat does walk like a duck.... |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
33. CTers have cited the implosionworld website repeatedly as |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
37. You can make this stuff up. I never heard of implosionworld |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:16 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I did a DU search and it only shows up |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You have search capability - go look it up.... |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
41. I think thermite is used by the military more than demolition |
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KJF (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:19 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Good point with the tags |
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KJF (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:41 AM Response to Original message |
42. A point or two |
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petgoat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:28 AM Response to Reply #42 |
48. Thanks for your patient reading, Kevn. |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 12:50 AM Response to Reply #48 |
87. I know. He says he wasn't paid by anyone, , but I |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:24 PM Response to Reply #42 |
60. A point or two. |
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KJF (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 01:53 AM Response to Reply #60 |
91. I'm going to try to stick very closely to the topic... |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 01:03 AM Response to Reply #42 |
88. Also, on the 91st floor of the north tower, which was |
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Artdyst (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
52. Your post is factually incorrect. Was that intentional? |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 12:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. Is it really? |
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Artdyst (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:08 PM Response to Reply #53 |
58. Just because the corporate media misleads doesn't mean you should |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:44 PM Response to Reply #58 |
62. The corporate media misleads... |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:50 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. A few more examples: |
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Carefulplease (749 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:41 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. Self delete... (moved up) |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 02:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
66. Your post is factually incorrect. Was that intentional? |
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Artdyst (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:03 PM Response to Reply #66 |
69. No, I mean ALL experts in common sense. Every single one. EOM |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:14 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Have you seen, read, or heard the opinions of ALL of those experts? |
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wildbilln864 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 03:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Make7... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-09-06 04:06 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Red herring. Please respect the specific topic at hand. nt |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 01:13 AM Response to Reply #75 |
89. For one thing you're not the moderator, and for another... |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:29 AM Response to Reply #89 |
95. The topic at hand is the lack of necessity for specifying "some" |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:12 AM Response to Reply #95 |
123. You mean ad hominem like this? |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:07 AM Response to Reply #123 |
127. No, different. |
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salvorhardin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:15 AM Response to Reply #127 |
128. But do you know what ad hominem means? |
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Artdyst (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:40 PM Response to Reply #123 |
133. No. It's only an ad hominem attack if someone disses one of THEM. nt |
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Jazz2006 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-10-06 03:35 AM Response to Reply #89 |
96. Oh my |
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HuskerDU (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 02:10 AM Response to Reply #71 |
113. I wish someone would devote a thread to this post. |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 04:06 AM Response to Reply #113 |
122. None of the OCT will answer it or they say they don't want one |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 11:19 AM Response to Reply #122 |
129. Your post is shockingly dishonest and intended to mislead. |
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mirandapriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:24 PM Response to Reply #129 |
130. Here is one right here. Please apologize. |
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Artdyst (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:35 PM Response to Reply #130 |
131. Answers? Maybe that's someone else's job. Don't ask me which one. EOM |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:38 PM Response to Reply #130 |
132. I remember that single example too, which is why |
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Artdyst (135 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:41 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Which debate handbook do you use? (title and author, please) Thanks. |
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greyl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-11-06 12:46 PM Response to Reply #134 |
135. Why, do you need one? nt |
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