LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU SEE FIRE - the flaming inferno is mind control

[Twist_U_Up]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT-po-tmJRc&feature=player_embedded
— Listen to the final moments of the daring rescue efforts of the New York City Fire Department operating in the South Tower of the World Trade Center moments before it suddenly exploded into oblivion. This is the biggest conflict of evidence of all: Either there were emergency teams operating in the building or there was a tremendous raging inferno. The two are mutually exclusive possibilities.

[SDuderstadt]

1. Stupid either-or argument that....

totally overlooks at least a third possibility...that emergency teams were operating on the floors that weren't a raging inferno. It's stupid to imply anyone has ever claimed all 110 floors were a "raging inferno". This is why you're not taken seriously here, dude.

[zappaman]

2. your reasoning

is flawed...to say the least.

[greyl]

3. What's your explanation for how Kim Jong-il planted explosives in the towers? nt

[hack89]

4. You do know that there were 60 - 70 floors in each tower with no fires?

you do, don't you?

[BooBluePotion]

5. There were WTC workers calling 911

On floors directly above and below the impact zone. So the raging inferno is nowhere near the impact zone. Then where?

[hack89]

6. The impact zone encompassed 3-4 floors initially

leaving plenty of intact floors for people to call from. As the fires progress, the people above the impact zone were most likely driven upwards by the smoke and flames or trapped in their offices. The people below the impact zone were able to escape.

[Twist_U_Up]

14. Wrong again dude

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPyrmXYZLA&feature=related
please stop spreading disinfo

[hack89]

15. So what trapped and killed hundreds above the impact zone?

why did anyone have to die when they could have simply walked down?

What he is saying is that right after the impact the fires had not spread to every part of the building and if you were quick and lucky enough to be in the right place then you could escape. But what about 30 minutes later? or an hour? By then the fires had spread to the point that no one could escape.

Your clip is classic truther cherry picking out of context.

How do you explain the massive smoke plume? That smoke plume extended miles into the sky and represented tons of particulates being lifted upwards. That requires a massive amount of energy - where do you think it came from if not fires?

Only a truther would see a massive plume of smoke on the horizon and think "what a tiny fire." :eyes:

[Twist_U_Up]

21. Too bad these folks arent around to tell you why.

but then again, Im sure being, you, it wont.

[hack89]

23. You are little more incoherent than normal

"but then again, Im sure being, you, it wont." :shrug:

[SDuderstadt]

24. So, what trapped them and killed them...

dude? Mind control?

[whatchamacallit]

7. Fascinating and sad... (n/t)

[SDuderstadt]

8. Tell me you see the false premise in the OP...

you do, don't you?

[whatchamacallit]

9. Yes

the nature, timing, and locations of those communications don't constitute definitive proof there were no raging fires. Now toss us a bone and admit that they don't exactly confirm the official narrative either. Such as they are, they do paint an odd picture and cast some doubt on the speculated cause of the collapse.

[SDuderstadt]

10. Only if you look only at those communications as...

the sum total of what we know about the towers.

As such, it only works if you ignore all the other evidence. It assumes a firefighter can see an entire floor from the enclosed stairwell and further assumes said firefighter can see through floors and ceilings into other floors.

[TomClash]

11. There was a raging inferno at 5 WTC nt

[truth2power]

12. Twist_U_Up...Ignore the naysayers. That is all. eom

[Twist_U_Up]

13. Heres another 1 min vid of WTC 84th floor survivor.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSPyrmXYZLA&feature=related

Brian Clark of Euro Brokers was on the 84 Floor of the South Tower, 6 Floors above impact on 9/11. He and a colleague walked down the tower. He describes the scene at the point of impact on the 78th Floor as "Flames licking the wall, starved of Oxygen".

The WTC Collapse cannot be explained by intense prolonged FIRE. Eyewitnesses inside the building and a Thermal image camera on the outside of the building indicate THERE WAS NO SUCH Prolonged FIRE.

Excerpt from film Zero 9/11
http://www.zerofilm.info/

As for the naysayers...
It would be funny if they were not purposefully spitting in the faces of the victims families

[hack89]

16. So what trapped the hundreds that died above the impact zone?

why didn't they simply walk down?

What caused the massive smoke plume? Why do truthers avoid that particular question?

[Make7]

17. Kevin Cosgrove on 105th floor: "... the smoke's really bad now."

"I can barely breathe now. I can't see."

"I need oxygen."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUhGVpP8hCw
 

[truth2power]

18. There are specific techniques to be used when one wants to shut down discussion on the internet...

Good thing we don't have to put up with that in this forum :eyes:

[apocalypsehow]

19. I think you are referring to the quaint concept of "posting factual material backed by evidence."

Doing so does indeed shut down many a Truther discussion on the internet, because the facts are not on the Truther's side.

Indeed, if the Truthers practiced much of that in either this or any other forum, they wouldn't be Truthers. At least not for long.

[LARED]

20. kick because I just love the title nt

[Twist_U_Up]

22. Anything on the content?

[achtung_circus]

25. Still waiting for content... :) nt

[LARED]

26. Well, those Firefighters had some real backbone.

Other than that the content was pretty lame, meaning more of the same truther sophistry.

[Twist_U_Up]

27. let us know when your sick of being DUs pinata

[LARED]

28. Funny, Ironic, but funny nt

[BeFree]

29. Bwahahahahaha!!!

You rock, Twist.

[SDuderstadt]

30. From one "designated pinata"...

to the other one. Priceless.

[BeFree]

31. What does this mean?

This pinata? Normally, it means that a person has on a blindfold and aimlessly whacks away at the pinata with a stick.

Are you condoning being blindfolded and whacking away, or what?

Or is it that you have some fantasy about raising a stick and swinging at ol' BeFree?

What are you trying to say? Only asking a question, don't flip out this time, K?

[LARED]

32. If you have to ask

you're not going to get it no matter how well it's explained. In a weird way it's no fun playing with you if you don't get it.

One other possibility is this is just another exercise in dishonest reframing other's words. An infamous rep you have quickly acquired.

[SDuderstadt]

33. It means TuuTuu's post backfired, dude...

like most of yours. A great part of the entertainment value of this forum is to come here and watch you, Tuu-Tuu and a few of the more comical "truthers"get "whacked" by just about everyone in the thread.

It's an "analogy", dude. Surely you've heard of those.