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King Coal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:21 PM Original message |
Can we compile a list of reasons why 9/11 was LIHOP? |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
1. What tipped me off was Bush's reaction to the news: |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
22. He was shocked. You can read it in his face. |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. No air defense that day. |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. You should check out |
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bullimiami (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. the simplest and most obvious reason |
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Al-CIAda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. Coincidental 'war-games', The non-response of NORAD and lack of def of Pen |
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rainy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
6. New world at any cost. Governments have in the past |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. The dude who is over the FAA Terrorist Plan Coordinator's |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
8. the physics and chemistry suspension of disbelief required |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. But the problem, you see, is that it did. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:11 PM Response to Reply #11 |
32. Osama allowed to go free. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
63. That's irrelevant to the collapse. |
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Zuni (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. so what did make the building collapse on itself? |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
31. There were bombs |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
20. Deleted message |
CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:56 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. "Pull it." |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:24 PM Response to Reply #27 |
73. There we go. Thanks for posting it. |
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Maine-i-acs (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
9. Condi: "We never dreamed they'd fly planes into buildings!" |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
10. PNAC's desire for a "new Pearl Harbor" to move its agenda forward |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:40 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. But if there wasn't 9/11, PNAC wouldn't have a dime's worth of power now. |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:46 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Motive and opportunity. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #19 |
62. Unconvincing. |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
61. that's comparing apples and oranges. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. That's circular reasoning. |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. so what you call circular reasoning is just disagreeing with you? |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:17 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Okay, we'll use Occam's Razor. |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. ok, fair enough. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:37 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Criminal negligence I agree with. |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 06:18 PM Response to Reply #76 |
79. ok.. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. It would be surprising if PNAC were the ONLY GROUP IN WASHINGTON. |
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ashmanonar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:31 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. *bows* |
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Pockets (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
13. I'm new here, what's LIHOP mean? |
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CottonBear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Let it happen on purpose |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Neither work. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Yeah except bin laden is suddenly really fat and dark on the tape |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. They're two different people |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
34. CNN had an interview |
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Pockets (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. 9/11 vs 911 |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
49. They needed the operation to be a success. Near-empty planes |
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Pockets (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. I understand that, however.... |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Why did they pick September 11th? Just lucky? |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:40 PM Response to Reply #41 |
59. Why not? Their purpose wasn't to "hurt" us, it was to frighten us. |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yeah, like after Pear Harbour... |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:50 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. The intent of Pearl Harbor was different. |
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Pockets (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. Sorry to keep repeating myself, |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:06 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. Yes. And if Al Qaeda wanted to more easily control |
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Pockets (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:26 PM Response to Reply #67 |
75. Thats what GWB wanted too |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:43 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. The middle east in general is saturated with troops, yes, |
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ragin_acadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 04:31 PM Response to Reply #66 |
78. oh definately |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:05 PM Response to Reply #78 |
82. And you think bin Laden is a stupid man? |
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ragin_acadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:38 PM Response to Reply #82 |
85. hell, bin laden is our best creation. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 12:02 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. LOL. OBL a failure? By what means? |
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ragin_acadian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-13-05 05:33 AM Response to Reply #86 |
90. dethroning america? |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 07:22 PM Response to Reply #18 |
80. Obviously another CNNMSNBCABCCBS sucker |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 12:15 AM Response to Reply #80 |
87. If I watched any television, then yes. |
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clem_c_rock (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 12:51 AM Response to Reply #87 |
88. I must say you have quite a lot of faith |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
15. The truth is so easy to find... |
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LunaC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
16. The Big Picture |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. It can't be anything else. |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:19 PM Response to Reply #23 |
72. But someone's agenda will *always* be fulfilled. |
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CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:48 PM Response to Original message |
21. It took under 20 minutes for the military to intercept a golfer's plane |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Bingo |
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Make7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Apr-12-05 01:30 AM Response to Reply #21 |
89. Eastern Daylight Time vs. Central Daylight Time |
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NAO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
26. NORAD response on 9/11 vs NORAD responses in previous years |
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NAO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 12:59 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The Lone Gunman Pilot Episode vs. Condi Rice's no one could have imagined |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Also |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. No wonder the show never made it |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
29. Destruction and discarding (into multiple trash receptacles) of testimony |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:18 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. provide links |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. Wow, thanks. I read it in the NY Times when it happened. |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #38 |
51. snip from hell |
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sabra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
30. Cause the excuse for it was that our defense and intelligence sucks |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
33. Headlining news was to be released re stolen 2000 election. |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:19 PM Response to Reply #33 |
40. yep |
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FreedomAngel82 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Yep |
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Lone Pawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:07 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. And it was released later anyway. |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
36. Bushitler knew what was taking place but sat for 20 minutes |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:21 PM Response to Reply #36 |
42. everyone should see the video |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:25 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Darn thing wouldn't work for me....have quick time...hmmm |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
57. Deleted message |
CornField (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. It isn't that he sat while they finished reading -- it was the photo ops! |
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ariellyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
37. Go here. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
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ariellyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:44 PM Response to Reply #47 |
55. I'll ask the Mods about your personal attack. n/t |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. Get this book. The evidence is all here in one place for you |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:39 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Thanks Clieta...will read. |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
53. 50 posts before the torpedo! |
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spooked911 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 10:14 PM Response to Reply #53 |
83. Keep trying! |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 02:16 PM Response to Original message |
58. Shall we mourn this thread's death? |
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RBHam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Apr-11-05 03:10 PM Response to Reply #58 |
70. i sing too soon... |
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