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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:24 PM Original message |
A Kerry/Gore, Gore/Kerry ticket - odds? |
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Catch22Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
1. No problem, I wonder aloud like that all the time |
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unlawflcombatnt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:33 AM Response to Reply #1 |
42. Me too |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
2. No. Won't fly. It's one or the other. |
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jayctravis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
15. I understand what you are saying. |
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Smarmie Doofus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. The complexity of Kerry's style is both his strength.... |
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Ferret Annica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
180. Excellent analysis of Kerry |
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Clarkie1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
24. Kerry is "braver than any of could hope to be?" |
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WildEyedLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:46 AM Response to Reply #24 |
30. You doubt Kerry's courage? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:31 AM Response to Reply #30 |
69. I don't doubt it at all |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:00 AM Response to Reply #24 |
44. Do you even know HALF of what he faced for 5 years in IranContra and BCCI? |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:45 AM Response to Reply #44 |
231. THAT IS WHY I STILL AM TOO DISAPPOINTED to support Kerry again. |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:04 PM Response to Reply #24 |
113. One of my brothers was in Viet Nam and he told me that anyone |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:30 PM Response to Reply #113 |
116. And he REQUESTED swiftboat duty at a time when casualty rate was over 70% |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:57 PM Response to Reply #2 |
142. Yeah. I'm all into recycling. |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
3. Zero! Why can't you people forget the people who've already lost? |
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wildhorses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
10. very . dirty . GAME. now you're getting it |
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we can do it (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:42 PM Response to Reply #3 |
13. Gore WON.....Kerry WON |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:56 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. No he didn't! You've got to remember, no matter how or why the vote |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 11:17 PM Response to Reply #16 |
28. it should matter most how people vote! |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:42 AM Response to Reply #28 |
29. That's true, BUT our system of gov't includes the electoral college. |
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flaminbats (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:08 AM Response to Reply #29 |
34. this should be a top campaign issue.. |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:59 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Ok, if they did lose one way or the other why does that make it |
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DU me (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:00 PM Response to Reply #16 |
112. Do you want a President that won by the votes or a President |
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Griffy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:27 AM Response to Reply #16 |
216. FAIR OR NOT??? it DOES matter.. WE CAN prove it.. |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
25. We're not reliving political history, we're writing it. And if we stuck w/ |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
4. Hasn't John Kerry |
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esvhicl (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
8. Some of believe that Kerry won also |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Difference |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:19 AM Response to Reply #14 |
80. And Gore had half a million more votes than Bush. NT |
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radio4progressives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. difference is Gore fought to defend it, Kerry refused to stand up ... |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Kerry could have shouted, "I won! I won! I know it, I just know it." |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:05 AM Response to Reply #17 |
45. Do you have proof of anything you just stated? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
72. I don't forgive Al Gore |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:19 AM Response to Reply #17 |
96. Look at what they are both doing since losing. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:34 PM Response to Reply #96 |
144. Well AND |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #144 |
168. What exactly does this have to do with Gore and Kerry? |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:06 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Unfair comparison between Gore and Kerry. Both ran under |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:14 AM Response to Reply #33 |
41. I'm not changing my mind. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:07 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Why? Usually only Republicans loathe the one man who has investigated |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #46 |
48. I've heard that tired old line before |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:29 AM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Truth is never old and tired. National Security archives are a great start |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. What have we done? Exactly? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:44 AM Response to Reply #53 |
56. You misunderstood. I said I don't trust any Democrat who worked AGAINST |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:48 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Again. Can you cite any accomplishment? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
60. You show disdain for the historic record as if it doesn't count. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:02 AM Response to Reply #60 |
62. Indictments? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:25 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. His efforts did help end three wars. Vietnam, Iran-Iraq, and he exposed |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #60 |
64. I take issue |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:22 AM Response to Reply #64 |
65. He forewarned us about terror in 1997. Media and the public didn't listen. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:24 AM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I would side with you |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:29 AM Response to Reply #66 |
68. You don't think media has a responsibility to inform the citizenry? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:41 AM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I haven't said anything about media |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:49 AM Response to Reply #70 |
74. Kerry won his matchup with Bush DECISIVELY. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:41 PM Response to Reply #74 |
145. Did Kerry say one gd thing about voting machines |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:05 PM Response to Reply #145 |
195. I think you need to visit the National Security Archives and LEARN you |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 07:45 PM Response to Reply #195 |
207. Um. no. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 07:37 AM Response to Reply #207 |
223. Name the Democrat who is TODAY going after the machines PUBLICLY. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:13 AM Response to Reply #223 |
224. Obviously you can't? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #224 |
226. And where is the vocal or documented investigations they are leading |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:30 AM Response to Reply #226 |
228. Deleted message |
blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #228 |
230. Then produce that evidence, And do try to reply to the actual post. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:53 AM Response to Reply #230 |
232. I didn't say I had evidence. Please pay attention to the entire thread. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:11 AM Response to Reply #226 |
233. There is just no pleasing some people. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:20 AM Response to Reply #233 |
234. I would gain information if you chose to deliver some in your posts. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 04:41 PM Response to Reply #226 |
250. In case you didn't notice |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:46 AM Response to Reply #65 |
159. I have his book from 1997 on that subject: A New War |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #46 |
155. So tell me oh wise one |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 03:53 PM Response to Reply #155 |
194. I believe he's learning about it in any we he can and that is why he and |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
148. Deleted message |
Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:07 AM Response to Reply #148 |
153. Good point |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 09:15 AM Response to Reply #148 |
170. It's true a lot of us are not "good ole boys" |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:58 AM Response to Reply #170 |
182. karrynnj: I will respond to your post with the presumption that |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:30 PM Response to Reply #182 |
208. I will try to respond |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 09:53 AM Response to Reply #208 |
235. karrynnj: You have certainly proved at least one thing and that is |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:25 AM Response to Reply #235 |
238. I do understand and share your frustration with what Bush has done |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:36 AM Response to Reply #238 |
240. Obviously my writing skills are not good. |
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Der Blaue Engel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:16 AM Response to Reply #148 |
215. "Professional promoters with an agenda"...oh, really? |
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Mr_King (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'd like it |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. If ANYONE |
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melody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. You don't put two stallions on one cart |
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serryjw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
209. Strange statement |
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DU me (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:32 PM Response to Original message |
6. Yes for Gore, Gore won and the election was stolen from him, Kerry No! |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:27 AM Response to Reply #6 |
39. Kerry won more votes than Gore. You can't compare election |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
50. Gore got ripped. Kerry layed down and rolled over. |
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DU me (71 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
110. Exactly |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. Ugh/Ugh. |
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longship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
11. Hmmm... If it's Kerry, it won't be Gore, and vice-versa. |
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Muddy Waters Guitar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
18. Gore-Kerry, Gore-Clark, or Clark-Gore |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:00 PM Response to Original message |
19. Oh ....... how ............ inspiring. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
38. Oh....how....superficial. And stupid. |
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kahleefornia (530 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:32 AM Response to Reply #38 |
101. no - not pretty enough to be effective |
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Admiral Loinpresser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:18 AM Response to Reply #101 |
171. Gore's actual charisma will trump the old theme. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. Kerry just doesn't "have it" |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:17 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. Obviously,YOU didn't follow the campaign to closely, did you? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:17 AM Response to Reply #37 |
79. I knocked myself out for Kerry - never again |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:47 PM Response to Reply #79 |
147. Exactly. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:05 AM Response to Reply #37 |
152. Not me. |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:57 AM Response to Reply #37 |
162. He WON the election |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:20 AM Response to Reply #20 |
49. Why? Because the corporate media downplayed the Dem defense of those lies |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:22 AM Response to Reply #49 |
154. Okay. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
52. He's bushies friend |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:24 PM Response to Reply #52 |
127. That is what normal people do |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:55 PM Response to Reply #127 |
141. Maybe you weren't watching the same show |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
21. I can't think of a worse ticket |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:29 PM Response to Original message |
26. Well it's got north-south appeal |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Oct-09-05 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
27. Aside from the fact |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:39 AM Response to Reply #27 |
54. Then there was 911 |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:50 AM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Yeah - we all saw how YOU exposed the BFEE and their agenda |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:00 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. Am I a public servant? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:42 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. You have never read the congressional record, have you? You post as if |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:52 AM Response to Reply #71 |
75. I had absolutely ZERO |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:02 AM Response to Reply #75 |
77. He worked five years to stop it with little or no help even from Dems |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:22 AM Response to Reply #77 |
81. I dunno |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:37 AM Response to Reply #81 |
87. He didn't backslap Bush at the debates, he DEFEATED BUSH DECISIVELY. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:47 AM Response to Reply #87 |
90. okay |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:04 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Deniers don't use facts to make their case, they deny those facts exist. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:10 AM Response to Reply #92 |
93. I prefer real life |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. If real life's what the corporate media sez it is, then we've already lost |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:26 AM Response to Reply #95 |
100. well. duh. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:42 PM Response to Reply #75 |
130. So which superhero do you support |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 01:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
149. Thank you |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #149 |
248. Kerry was the only one willing to fight BCCI |
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bunny planet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:57 AM Response to Original message |
31. I would love, love, love, a Gore/Kerry ticket |
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BlueCaliDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:45 AM Response to Reply #31 |
243. I'm Still Hoping (Crossing Fingers) for a Gore/Clark Ticket... |
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darkism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:09 AM Response to Original message |
35. Two winners who don't stand up for themselves? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:43 AM Response to Reply #35 |
55. Ditto .. nt |
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BlueIris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
36. I just...can't see either of those men agreeing to be a vice-president |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:34 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. I want to see Kerry as President, but IMO he might be willing |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 07:40 AM Response to Original message |
43. No Kerry. No Skull and Boner. No one who voted to authorize |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:15 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. IWR would have prevented an invasion. Blame Bush for not implementing it |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 08:46 AM Response to Reply #43 |
57. We are in for a long 2008 |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:05 AM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Read Doonesbury? |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 06:31 PM Response to Reply #63 |
135. No, I haven't read Doonesbury. And upon learning that the |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 06:41 PM Response to Reply #135 |
138. You mean work for the middle class and poor like this guy? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:45 PM Response to Reply #138 |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:34 AM Response to Reply #146 |
156. And no one knows where he is now. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:41 AM Response to Reply #156 |
179. If you play the "Lalalalala" Game and act like something doesn't exist... |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:38 AM Response to Reply #146 |
178. You just need to pay attention... |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 11:08 AM Response to Reply #178 |
184. zulchzulu: I'm really getting tired of this petty bickering with you |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:18 PM Response to Reply #184 |
189. Perhaps you just need to be more informed about Kerry's efforts |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 03:41 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. zulch: I believe that you and I have an irreconcilable difference |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:12 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Perhaps you can just look at the issues I brought up |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 06:40 PM Response to Reply #197 |
204. In the main, I am familiar with Kerry's past and present political |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:10 PM Response to Reply #204 |
213. So who do you back? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:42 PM Response to Reply #189 |
251. Thanks. From one of your snips ~ |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:35 PM Response to Reply #146 |
203. That's fine, but please don't tell untruths about him or his record. |
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foo_bar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 11:30 AM Response to Reply #63 |
188. for the tinfoil record, Trudeau wasn't a 'bonesman' |
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SunDrop23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:44 AM Response to Original message |
73. I'll probably get killed for saying this, but No and No. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:55 AM Response to Original message |
76. Why do we here at DU want to run known losers?? |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:10 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. Bush was sold to the public as one of the greatest, most stoic presidents |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:31 AM Response to Reply #78 |
85. So lessee |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #85 |
94. Point is that media MADE Bush into a leading figure against terrorism. |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:24 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. A very strong man is needed to run against the Republican rats |
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ladjf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 10:00 AM Response to Reply #83 |
236. Thank you for saying what I've been attempting to say on this |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:28 AM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Agreed. |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
82. Just adding my opinion |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:33 AM Response to Reply #82 |
86. He doesn't frame. period. nt |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:50 AM Response to Reply #82 |
102. Good reasoning there, lets not go for someone really up for the |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. That's not what the poster said. He/she was making the point that |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:49 PM Response to Reply #103 |
131. I just saw Kerry last month in NJ |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 06:19 PM Response to Reply #131 |
133. Well, good for you, but you are hardly the entire electorate. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:22 PM Response to Reply #133 |
244. That wasn't the point |
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OnionPatch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:47 PM Response to Reply #102 |
117. I never said we should have a "dumbass" run! |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
88. They are both proven losers.... |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:05 PM Response to Reply #88 |
104. Were you never given another shot at something once you lost? |
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ArkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:16 PM Response to Reply #104 |
125. I'll stand by the accuracy of my statement. Unfortunately, |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:41 AM Response to Reply #104 |
157. No. Not really. |
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Doctor Panacea (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
89. Gore yes, Kerry no !!!!!!!!!!! |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:48 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. I sure have . nt |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:20 AM Response to Reply #89 |
97. Because John Kerry is NOT really a brilliant man and a good speaker |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:45 AM Response to Reply #97 |
158. Quack Quack |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:19 PM Response to Reply #158 |
199. He helped end Vietnam, Iran-Iraq and exposed illegal war in Central Americ |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 07:23 PM Response to Reply #199 |
205. I've read lots of Octafish's threads |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 07:33 PM Response to Reply #205 |
206. If you read them then you would know the RESULTS are the actual |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 09:07 PM Response to Reply #206 |
211. Deleted message |
blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 07:34 AM Response to Reply #211 |
222. You've only assured this forum that you consider historical fact to be |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:19 AM Response to Reply #222 |
225. Yeah. I deal with reality. |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:26 AM Response to Reply #225 |
227. I'll never give up truth or ethics to bend to media spin. History matters. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 08:34 AM Response to Reply #227 |
229. See above. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:12 PM Response to Reply #89 |
114. Not only have I had enough of Kerry... |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:00 PM Response to Reply #114 |
120. Yet you love some Dems who supported Reagan-Bush OVER Kerry. Interesting. |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:01 AM Response to Reply #120 |
150. Don't ever accuse me of being a Republican |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:14 PM Response to Reply #150 |
198. I'm not, but if you were familiar with where some of your favorite |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:40 AM Response to Reply #120 |
167. Reagan won 50.8% to Carter's 41% in 1980 |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #167 |
202. Sad thing about the media is that they refuse to give credit to any Dem |
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zann725 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:22 AM Response to Original message |
98. Two already-elected (though NOT innaugurated) Presidents... |
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dback (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
99. Just might fly, if you sold it as "Bush had 8 years-now let us fix things" |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:10 PM Response to Original message |
105. I would especially love to see Kerry run again. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:50 AM Response to Reply #105 |
160. This thread should make clear |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:25 AM Response to Reply #160 |
172. If so, you have NO problem |
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Mass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
106. Interesting idea but it wont happen |
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David Dunham (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:19 PM Response to Original message |
107. Gore would be Pres. today if he'd picked Kerry for VP in 2000 |
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politicasista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:27 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. nuff said eom. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:47 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. How do you figure that? What states would he have helped in that Gore |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:27 PM Response to Reply #109 |
115. New Hampshire, possibly Ohio. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:48 PM Response to Reply #115 |
118. I'm not convinced that northeasterner Kerry as opposed to northeasterner |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 01:56 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. Kerry had a great reputation in NH. It went beyond northeasterner bonds. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:25 PM Response to Reply #119 |
121. So if he had gained some vets votes, he might (without Lieberman) have |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:34 PM Response to Reply #121 |
122. I'm not sure about that. Bush was actively courting Muslim votes in 2000. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:52 PM Response to Reply #122 |
124. And would that only make a difference with |
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blm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:33 PM Response to Reply #124 |
129. Not at all, just pointing out that Bush was actively pushing for Muslim |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:59 PM Response to Reply #121 |
132. The Jewish vote is highly Democratic to begin with |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 06:22 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. Trying to push Kerry as a Jewish candidate is a preposterous stretch. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:30 AM Response to Reply #134 |
176. Of course he's not Jewish |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:34 AM Response to Reply #176 |
177. Then why the hell did you bring it up? NT |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:56 AM Response to Reply #132 |
161. Sorry but. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:27 AM Response to Reply #161 |
174. Actually, yes he does |
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MISSDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
111. I would vote for either combination. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
123. Give me GORE/OBAMA |
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mtnester (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
126. Won't be John Kerry |
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sandrakae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
128. Im liken a Kerry/Biden ticket. |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 06:34 PM Response to Reply #128 |
137. Biden would never stomach that |
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AntiCoup2K4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:03 AM Response to Reply #137 |
151. America would never stomach that. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
136. I'd go for a Kerry ticket of any kind. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 09:35 PM Response to Original message |
139. Didn't Nixon lose in '60 before he won in '68? |
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A-Schwarzenegger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 10:50 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. Yeah but there were a couple little assassinations in between. |
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pox americana (622 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:47 PM Response to Reply #140 |
192. Good grief you're right. |
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sandrakae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Oct-10-05 11:18 PM Response to Reply #139 |
143. Yep, he sure did. |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:37 AM Response to Reply #143 |
166. Exactly. Maybe we should really try and be progressive |
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leesa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
163. I could easily see Gore as Prez. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
164. Many people voted against Bush, not for Kerry |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:23 AM Response to Reply #164 |
165. I think you overestimate the ABB votes and ignore Kerry's popularity. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:51 AM Response to Reply #165 |
169. Maybe but |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 11:14 AM Response to Reply #169 |
185. SBV are already old news and that issue is dead in the water. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 08:56 PM Response to Reply #169 |
210. The question also makes no sense |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 09:26 PM Response to Reply #210 |
212. I know it is an imperfect question. it is still interesting. |
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PresidentObama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:26 AM Response to Original message |
173. Heres my take.... |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:32 PM Response to Reply #173 |
201. Indeed. It all depends on the campaigns they run |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
175. I can tell you what the Republican slogan will be already |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:55 AM Response to Reply #175 |
181. I can't imagine the Repubs getting much traction from that |
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quaoar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 11:06 AM Response to Reply #181 |
183. Apparently you missed the Sore/Loserman bumperstickers |
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bgb217 (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 11:17 AM Response to Reply #183 |
186. I don't understand how.... |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 11:22 AM Response to Reply #183 |
187. So, that's politics, doesn't mean most people take them seriously. |
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Tiggeroshii (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
190. No way |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
191. Zero. Unless all of a sudden either were in the news |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:09 PM Response to Reply #191 |
196. Kerry and Gore are still in the news. |
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NYCGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 04:30 PM Response to Reply #191 |
200. Read this, Sparky. Gore gets it. |
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paineinthearse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-11-05 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
214. 2006 |
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GetTheRightVote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
217. I would vote for both together or either alone, I like both men |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
218. Watch this video. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:39 AM Response to Reply #218 |
242. Read this and check the links and then tell me Kerry is doing nothing |
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jaded_at_best (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:14 AM Response to Original message |
219. leave Kerry out |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:28 AM Response to Reply #219 |
220. Welcome to DU |
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MarsThe Cat (978 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
221. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! |
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lojasmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
237. How about Gore and somebody who DIDN'T vote for IWR |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:34 AM Response to Original message |
239. Kerry again is Ok with me. He continues to work hard for a better |
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AJH032 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 11:37 AM Response to Original message |
241. What makes anyone think Gore would serve as VP again? |
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momisold (148 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
245. From a perception angle. |
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Neshanic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
246. None. Kerry is damaged goods. The war you know. |
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second edition (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:45 PM Response to Reply #246 |
247. Nonsence, damaged goods, no way, he can over come this. n/t |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
249. Is there any polling data on either as to their current popularity? n/t |
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Donald Ian Rankin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-12-05 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
252. I think it would be a mistake |
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