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Sun Oct-23-05 05:39 PM
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Make your best case for indictments occurring OR..... |
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make your best case that they won't. Go!
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Sun Oct-23-05 05:43 PM
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senseandsensibility
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Sun Oct-23-05 05:44 PM
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but haven't laws been broken by this gang before? Just playing devil's advocate here. I'm with ya.
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Sun Oct-23-05 05:58 PM
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5. No whitewash this time |
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It would have been much easier to not prusue the investigation as agressively as they have. They certainly would not have leaned on the witnesses as much as they did.
It seems to have been a very determined investigation.
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Sun Oct-23-05 07:20 PM
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As a devil's advocate, I can only say that perhaps he wants to give the impression of a thorough investigation regardless of whether he indicts or not. But I think you're right.
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Sun Oct-23-05 06:09 PM
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6. But there hasn't been a special prosecutor before. |
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Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 06:11 PM by longship
It's simple. These guys are going to get away with any and all bushit until somebody holds them accountable. There has been precisely no accounting from Congress, no accounting from the press, and what accounting that has come from the people has been silenced, or at best muffled.
Now, things are coming undone. Cindy Sheehan started it. Then, one after another events have taken us down a path where the people are not only rising up against these power hungry fools, but the press has begun to be journalists again. We still have to deal with Congress. Maybe Fitzgerald's indictments will help there.
I think that they are inevitable.
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Sun Oct-23-05 07:21 PM
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9. Good analysis, longship |
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I certainly can't disagree with anything you say.:)
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Sun Oct-23-05 05:50 PM
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3. I believe there will be indictments |
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Edited on Sun Oct-23-05 05:57 PM by shamrock
and yes they have gotten away with so much in the past, but until now we have not had a truly thorough impartial investigation. So I say there will be indictments, but that doesn't mean that they won't somehow squirm out of at least some of them again. In other words, we have Fitzgerald working on this ( we all know his reputation) and that's why I have hope. In the past it's been basically them investigating themselves. GO FITZ!!!!
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Sun Oct-23-05 07:22 PM
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10. Welcome to DU, shamrock! |
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Nice to have you here, and I hope you're right!:hi:
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Sun Oct-23-05 05:53 PM
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4. One name: Fitzgerald. He's a pitbull who goes after the |
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truth, is not political, and has been praised by the cabal for his fairness and integrity. I can't imagine nothing has been found in two years; Miller going to jail just adds more fuel. They're goin' down! :toast:
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Sun Oct-23-05 07:25 PM
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12. Any guess on what the charge(s) will be? |
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Perjury, or something juicier?
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Sun Oct-23-05 06:26 PM
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7. Indictments in 4 parts |
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1. Too much evidence in public view. You can't just Warren Commission over the QED of conspiracy at the very least, armed with supeona power, a collie would be able to bring indictments on that one. Perjury should put Karl's McNuggets in the wringer without a doubt.
2. Too much public anger. I think Fitz is acute enough to realize that this is a cause that might be able to raise something like insurrection. I do not think that Fitz is running an aquittal machine.
3. The assumption of honest brokership. Fitzgerald does not have a track record of indolence or partiality. The way he has been smeared and lacerated by the right will have nothing to do with his final discision. But if, as I suspect, he's an Archibald Cox sort of guy, he will be looking for that broad and bad indictment that goes everywhere he believes he can prove it goes.
4. Omens The website, and the repeat testimonies, and the fishy stuff with Juicy Miller's long incarceration and testimony all seems to point to a broken conspiracy to me. Further, my gut is telling me that we may experience a bit of shock and awe next week.
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Sun Oct-23-05 08:02 PM
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13. where do I start........... |
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.....first of all they violated their security clearance by voluntarily outing a CIA officer. On top of that they lied for 2 yrs by telling everyone they had nothing to do with it!! And do any of us really believe they ever would have told the truth if the evidence had not been revealed?
They created fictional 'intelligence' to promote a war of choice and there was a concerted effort by Rove, Libby and Cheney to convince everyone from Powell on down to ordinary Americans that this war was a matter of National Security! That was another lie!
To me, these facts guarantee perjury and obstruction of justice charges. The facts should also include conspiracy charges but we will have to wait and see if Fitzgerald can prove that one.
I can probably come up with more but this is what occurs to me now.
Oh yeah, and they also used Miller as a tool for their propoganda.....
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Sun Oct-23-05 08:36 PM
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14. good summary - thank you EOM |
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Mon Oct-24-05 01:43 AM
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15. you're welcome :-).............n/t |
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Mon Oct-24-05 01:51 AM
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16. Oh but they will! They must! We've come such a long way already! |
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Edited on Mon Oct-24-05 01:57 AM by Humor_In_Cuneiform
The wizard of oz is a wonderful wizard if ever oh over a wizard there was, because because because because of the wonderful things he does...
Fitzard of Oz?
Getting late again.
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