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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:43 AM Original message |
Obama Should Send Out Kerry to Stop The Clinton Swiftboating And Get Back on Track |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
1. Yep ... Clinton is evil, Obama is without sin |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. John Kerry has more class and more honor and love of country than Bill C.! I agree with the OP. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Yes, that was one classy concession speech. NT |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Yes, it WAS n/t |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:59 AM Response to Reply #5 |
51. "Anything to win" |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
2. hahah send Kerry out to confront the swiftboaters |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:50 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So you admit that you're candidate is "swiftboating"? Glad to see it. n/t |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:08 AM Response to Reply #2 |
55. Re-read the OP which makes the case that the nominee shouldn't be the one responding the loudest |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. you need to inform us of the "Details" of said 'Swift Boating', the specifics, or Links, or |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
14. On The Drug Dealing, Madrassa Partying, Reaganite Fairytale? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. "the Clintons lie with such ease " |
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Laurab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:31 AM Response to Reply #20 |
67. It's actually a quote by David Geffen |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:17 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. can you link to hillery, or just troll types of the like here.. I think this is the subject..>Link>> |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #25 |
60. I wish they were Fox News only |
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sam sarrha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #14 |
37. no.. that crap isnt Swiftboating, that is Reich Wing Media..spin, I thought you meant this, >Link |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:51 AM Response to Original message |
6. In a battle of surrogates, Bill would leave Kerry as a grease stain on the pavement. |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #6 |
16. really? |
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MBS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. yup, Kerry is the guy with the moral authority n/t |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:31 AM Response to Reply #16 |
31. Exactly. Bill has his charismatic talents, but this kind of battle |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. good article. |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:37 AM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Perhaps Kerry Knows He'll Be Seeing Hillary in the Senate For Many Years |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Frankly, DrF |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I agree with you on surrogates. I think that is what Kerry needed in |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:43 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. The media and the right wing certainly would like to see |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:54 AM Response to Reply #40 |
49. Well, it makes a good story, I guess. Of course, you can't deny |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
42. I hope he will :-) n/t |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:04 PM Response to Reply #34 |
75. Kerry and Clintons ? Oil & Water |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #16 |
77. Moral authority is a disdavantage in a street fight. |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:34 AM Response to Reply #6 |
61. I doubt it |
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rug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #61 |
78. I didn't notice the comments on the endorsement. |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
7. Like the way it worked in 2004? |
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jasmine621 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:55 AM Response to Original message |
8. Kerry couldn't or wouldn't even stop the swiftboating against himself. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #8 |
22. Kerry admited that he should have done more |
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sunonmars (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
70. bit fucking late to whinge about swiftboating now is it not Kerry. |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
9. Whether you consider it "swiftboating" or not, that is a good idea. |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. too late |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:07 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. He Simply Has to Point Out That No One Says He Did Anything Wrong |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:21 AM Response to Reply #18 |
28. he wrote letters as a State Legislator |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:16 AM Response to Reply #10 |
24. And yet another example |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:38 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. well, yes and no |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
11. What a wonderful idea, since Kerry was so effective against the REAL swiftboaters last time |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:13 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. Did you really read the original post? |
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mtnsnake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:42 AM Response to Reply #23 |
39. Yeah I read it. The OP suggests Kerry should "stop the Clinton swiftboating". What did I miss? |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:21 AM Response to Reply #39 |
58. Ummh, did you read my previous post? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 08:59 AM Response to Original message |
12. That would be awesome. Given Kerry's spineless defense of himself, there is no one |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. ...here's some jewelry you're unfamiliar with |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
29. Nice jewelry. Too bad the campaign didn't merit it. NT |
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Fabio (929 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:25 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Huh? |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
63. Sorry, you don't get that from political campaigns |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
74. That's OK, Sen. Kerry & I don't mind we took up the slack for probably your Dad and of, course |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
15. A Patriot |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
21. Anything in particular you would like Kerry to hit Bill with?--since your are vague, like Omaha- |
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DrFunkenstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. You Can Start With The Lies About Voter Suppression in Nevada |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:02 AM Response to Reply #26 |
52. I think Kerry should wait until the chinton campaign puts out their list. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
32. Yes, Kerry's fine oratory skills will surely be an asset. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
41. Ah, it behooves Dems not to believe the false hype invented by the media. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. But that big red "L" on his forehead is so glaring. |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:51 AM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Liberal? n/t |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
53. Slightly to the right of Karl Marx...Thank you. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Nice 3rd grade discussion. |
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MNDemNY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. 5th grade...at least. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #41 |
48. My recollection of the 2004 primary season is rather different. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:58 AM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Well, Kerry can be uneven sometimes, but I think when he's on -- |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I have two aproaches to the campaigns: |
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karynnj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #48 |
65. Obviously other caucuses disagreed as Kerry won WA |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:51 AM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Yes, and lost the General Election. Against George Bush. |
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beachmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:55 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. If Dean was such a great fighter and could have won the G.E., he |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 01:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Mostly, I agree. |
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BigDDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
44. Kerry?? Stop swiftboating???? |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. How befitting!!!! n/t |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
56. Kerry is too smart to get into an argument he can't Win.. |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
59. If Kerry was no match for Karl Rove, |
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Inuca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:42 AM Response to Reply #59 |
62. Are you are implying that |
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smoogatz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:19 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. Not better, no, but Rove synthesized their approach |
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bidenista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
64. he's running against two people |
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BenDavid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 11:58 AM Response to Original message |
69. Kerry fighting back? Help me L-rd....But kerry will not because |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 12:45 PM Response to Original message |
71. He does owe her payback for 2006. |
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GalleryGod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 03:07 PM Response to Reply #71 |
76. John's tough enough-just ask his crew. He just refuses to stoop to the level of |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-24-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Hillary said 4 words.."I think it's inappropriate" |
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