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rndmprsn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:04 PM Original message |
Clinton wants Florida and Michigan delegates reinstated |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. She absolutely disgusts me |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
32. If Florida's votes get to count you're dropping your D affiliation? Wow. |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. If they change it after Florida votes |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
46. Why? Voters know it might be changed |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #46 |
60. My family in FL are disgusted that their votes won't count. |
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DaLittle Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
50. Hillary IS THE WHINER... Just Like Bush, Always Has To Change The Rules To Be In HER FAVOR! |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. Maybe her favor, maybe not. In America the votes should count |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
58. I read last week that the dems would probably honor the delegates |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. ... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. Don't like the rules, beak the rules, face the punishment, but HRC wants to change the rules |
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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. it is not breaking the rules to ask for a convention vote on seating delegates - happens |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:39 PM Response to Reply #9 |
23. Breaking the rules refered to moving up primary dates in violation of DEM Party rules |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. *DING* Yuo win the prize for the most creative use of 2000 GOP talking points |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
3. Hillary is joking, right? |
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kdmorris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. She should have fought for this before Michigan |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. Regardless of who says it, all state Dem parties should have voting rights in the natl. convention. |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. it's the NATIONAL party that makes the rules for the primaries |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:24 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. I also know that the Dem presidential candidate will need the MI & FL parties support to win the |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:53 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. The delegates will be seated. There's no doubt about that. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
80. of course, there's doubt about it. duh. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. THANK YOU. There are rules. Some states broke those rules |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #24 |
38. I guess rules trump ethics. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. If she had fought for those delegates BEFORE she won, I would say ethical |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
45. You can't do it before you run, because that means you "agree" with a state primary breaking rules. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:03 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. ROFLMAO So, doing it AFTER the vote goes your way is ethical? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:04 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Yes, it's ethical, because it's unlikely any of the big candidates disagree with the rules. |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:34 PM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Votes have not been counted in FL, they haven't voted yet. |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #24 |
72. Voters have to pay the price? Did they decide to change the date? WTF? |
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davidinalameda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
76. they should have spoken up before the primary |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #7 |
37. The voters can't decide what their state primary does! They should be punished? |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ezra Klein |
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bellasgrams (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. I just don't understand why anyone could be upset because |
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Adelante (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:00 AM Response to Reply #63 |
78. Of course people's votes should count and nobody's stopping people from voting |
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sidwill (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:17 PM Response to Original message |
8. Amazing |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Strangely enough, I'm not embarrassed to see a woman with nuts |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
10. GOOD. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:23 PM Response to Original message |
11. She's just the kind of fighter we need to beat the RW fuckers |
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Seen the light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:27 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I know right? Fuck the rules! |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. I see you've seen the light, after all :P |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:42 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. always worked for Rove |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:44 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. And it will work for us too |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:52 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Against 'them'? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #39 |
55. It's just politics, ma'am |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. is that a Rove quote? |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. We'll never win bringing a stick to a gun fight |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Use the big weapons in NOVEMBER against the GOP |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Great post! I feel the exact same way. |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:35 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. Yup, it's going to get bloody, nasty and underhanded REAL fast |
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elixir2 (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Your right on the money. Not only is it the right thing to do but HRC has shown she's tough!! |
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goldcanyonaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:49 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Yes, ovaries of steel! |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #31 |
74. I'm ashamed that the first "viable" woman to run for President is so damn *morally bankrupt.* |
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elixir2 (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #26 |
35. ****disgusting*** to you, determined to me. She has what it takes to win w/out breaking the rules. |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:11 PM Response to Reply #35 |
54. She DID break the goddamned rules |
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sonroadera (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Yes, we need a candidate who will do anything to anyone, no matter how unethical |
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Cronus Protagonist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
56. Extrapolate much? |
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Blarch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
13. What a disgusting person she is. |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:50 PM Response to Reply #13 |
33. Counting votes IS disgusting. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:55 PM Response to Reply #33 |
43. Changing the rules after the play is sorta disgusting |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:05 PM Response to Reply #43 |
49. The rules aren't being challenged, the consequences are, there's a difference. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. Disregarding the rules to change the consequences |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:24 PM Original message |
So you think it's fair for those voters to not count. OK. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
73. NOWHERE did I say that. I said the time to fight the refusal to seat was BEFORE MI voted |
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sonroadera (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
18. What a disgusting candidate she has turned out to be |
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rndmprsn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. check it... |
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sonroadera (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:43 PM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Add this to the list |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #18 |
41. WTF, it's disgusting to want people to be represented? |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #41 |
69. Democracy - an aquired taste around here |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
71. yeah, voting rights and democracy are for the birds! How dare she want votes to matter? |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:37 PM Response to Original message |
22. Disgusting. |
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Proud2BAmurkin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
34. Disgusting, counting those people's votes. ICK |
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AGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. Florida should count, not Michigan. |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
42. break the deal-spin the wheel |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:06 PM Response to Original message |
51. Why is the right to vote so distasteful to so many of you? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
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Kucinich4America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:10 PM Response to Original message |
53. How many threads do we need about Hillary's self serving attempt to avoid the rules? |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #53 |
65. Reasoned opinions get lost in the cruft. People just post "disgusting" over and over. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:15 PM Response to Original message |
57. I am Diogenes. Show me a single honest Hillary supporter. Admit this is disgusting. |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
59. Good for her |
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robbedvoter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. I am glad voting rights matter to one candidate - in November they might not |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-25-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Winning is everything to The Clintons and The Entire Party (and Nation) will suffer because of it. |
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DEMocracity (34 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 02:29 AM Response to Reply #68 |
77. it looks like |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 08:46 AM Response to Original message |
79. This is one of the slimiest political moves I've ever seen |
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workinclasszero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 09:42 AM Response to Original message |
81. Sickening |
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george_maniakes (831 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:50 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. its so obviously self-serving, how can clinton expect people... |
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sonroadera (115 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-26-08 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
82. She would have done this if she got 35% of the vote in MI, and was polling at 35% in FL, right? |
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