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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:30 PM Original message |
The McClurkin issue |
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Thrill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
1. If people up here didn't keep bringing up this guy |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. Totally. I mean who cares if Obama lends his stage to an "ex-gay" who thinks |
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maximusveritas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Agreed. Most gay people I know have never heard of him |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
52. That's why some gay newspapers have endorsed Hillary |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:14 PM Response to Reply #7 |
89. What all three of your gay friends? Thanks for the anecdote. |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:12 PM Response to Reply #7 |
123. Well, they need to know about him. |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
116. Obama already adressed the incident. on that same week, ages ago. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is not the GLBT community's responsibility to help him save face. He was warned before |
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cjmastaw (195 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. He doesn't have to apologize for anything. |
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jlake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Wow. Let me know when he has the KKK MC a fundraiser for him and we can talk. |
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Windy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
3. I respond with DOMA and there are glbt orgs that have supported obama |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:33 PM Response to Reply #3 |
170. WTF is "Gay City News"? You have real, live gays here telling you we're wounded |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
4. Clinton clearly lost tonight |
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maddiejoan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
6. He could introduce legislation |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:36 PM Response to Original message |
8. I wouldn't view it as insincere, if it was a sincere apology. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. yes...like ending the war and brining heathcare to 15 million people. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Why did you ask the question, if your intention was to belittle the issue? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:45 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. you were the one who seemed to claims it should be his priority |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. He chose to gamble on hate. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:53 PM Original message |
One of many and I think Obama has a great record on Human rights Issues |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
103. I understand that his record otherwise is pretty good |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. One of many and I think Obama has a great record on Human rights Issues |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #12 |
64. It's odd some posters think civil rights aren't a legit campaign issue, eh? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
124. That would be too big a stretch. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #124 |
171. Oh, they believe in civil rights. Just not for us. |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. I applaud Obama's stance on GLBT issues |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. It's not a matter of "disagreement." It's a morally reprehensible practice |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. and so was voting for the war in Iraq |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Both are important. It's not an either/or, so stop trying to make it one. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. I think you are the one who is making the either or Argument |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:57 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. Did I say genuflect and grovel? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. or else. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:02 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Or else what? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
82. So what is a greater failiure of judgement in your view? |
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writes3000 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. If you honestly think... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #26 |
47. That's ridiculous. McClurkin was chosen specifically because of his "ex-gay" |
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mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #47 |
49. No he wasn't. He was chosen because he's a popular gospel singer. nt |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:31 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. A popular gospel singer who would convey the right message to the bigots. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:00 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. You do not kinw that is a complete strawman |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:45 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. You're full of shit. HRC warned Obama. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:50 AM Response to Reply #60 |
73. Hillary warned Obama? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. Not Hillary - the Human Rights Campaign. See how it benefits you to |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:19 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. Ok When and where did they "warn" him? |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:02 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. Uhm, here's one article... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:11 PM Response to Reply #85 |
87. I just want a clear record before I eat crow, (edit) |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #87 |
128. If it were a case of simply forgetting the vet the guy, that would be giving Obama... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #26 |
66. Of course he did |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-03-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #26 |
193. What "evidence"?? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #17 |
94. What the fuck are you talking about? What the fuck does Iraq have to do with McClurkin? |
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Tektonik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #9 |
14. He let McClurkin stay on his SC campaign trail after the issue became known. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:55 AM Response to Reply #9 |
65. "Not by bullying and slamming the door in people's faces" |
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BlackVelvet04 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 08:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
192. It's so obvious Obama has been |
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CyberPieHole (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
10. Vote for Senator Clinton. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:05 AM Response to Reply #10 |
70. i for one will. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
16. Hillary has homophobes on her web site and her payroll |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:48 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You keep telling stories you like about what McClurkin did |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. Here! See about Obama/McClurkin with video and Hillary's homophobe fans |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Oh zulchzulu.....I will say you're a loyal soldier. |
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zulchzulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. What the hell does that mean? |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:09 AM Response to Reply #42 |
44. It means that you're an apologist for Obama, and he |
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dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
126. You can post bs in your journal until the cows come home and give birth to aliens |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 12:33 AM Response to Reply #126 |
174. You said it. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
20. If you mean Obama ("him" / run him into an alley)... |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. OP is convinced that pandering to bigots is necessary to get out of Iraq. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. hardly |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:09 PM Response to Reply #28 |
86. Here... |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:56 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. Maybe it's all part of Senator Obama's plan to send McClurkin to Iraq |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #23 |
38. I'm just sitting back watching you pin everyone |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:13 AM Response to Reply #23 |
56. Well, at least... |
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Beausoir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #20 |
43. You do have a special way with words. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:06 AM Response to Reply #43 |
54. You're too kind, Beausoir. |
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cboy4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Well said as always Saph |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:07 AM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Thank you, thank you, cboy. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:53 AM Response to Reply #20 |
74. 6,000 chances? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
95. Amnesia, Perky? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:41 PM Response to Reply #95 |
106. Show me evidence of any quiet entreaty to the campaign by HRC |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:51 PM Original message |
What the hell are you talking about now? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:18 PM Response to Original message |
125. It has everything to do withit. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:27 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Maybe you want all your candidate's flaws to remain hidden from view. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #129 |
134. No I would not have. Is that part of the anger? Are yoyu doing this because yousupported Hillary |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:16 PM Response to Reply #134 |
149. Gee, ya caught me! |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #129 |
138. I am just saying that there are ways to do this that would have allowed |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:17 PM Response to Reply #138 |
150. That's rich! |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 08:49 PM Response to Reply #150 |
152. I have one concern with Hillary |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:32 AM Response to Reply #152 |
175. No, that is not how I feel about this. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
131. Your quote |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #131 |
154. An oppressed minority asking for decency is "thuggery"? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:16 PM Response to Reply #154 |
158. No I did not say that either |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:23 PM Response to Reply #158 |
160. You can't decide what you said, but you did accuse gays of thuggery for asking for decency |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:36 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. No I specifically accused the HRC of thuggery |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:58 PM Response to Reply #163 |
165. How dare they demamd 0bama not give a bigot a platform? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
27. Please stop opining on things you don't care about. And theres Kirbyjohn after McClurkin. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #27 |
32. Kiryjon has no official fucntion in the campaign there was no letter or press release |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-31-08 11:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Not true. They used him again for an event in December. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. first I have heard of this any links? |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:04 AM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Sure. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
78. did he attend the event? |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:05 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. And here's a story from BarackObama.com dated July, 2007 |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The whole Kirbyjon story |
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AndyTiedye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
46. But Obama Does Not Triangulate, or So We Are Told |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
51. poor barack -- the way you make it sound -- he is just hounded by the evil gays -- |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It's strange, isn't it? |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #53 |
119. Hey, you forgot to mention... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:51 PM Response to Reply #119 |
191. Ironic, isn't it? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
58. No. Very clearly he mad a huge mistake with this |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. pandering was most assuredly part and parcel. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:48 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. So he's afraid to tell the tuth? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
80. Did I say that? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. Yeah, actually. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #84 |
98. The fear was the perception that he was catering to the gay community |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:07 PM Response to Reply #98 |
143. You said it was a mistake. So if it was a mistake, he should admit it. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:06 PM Response to Reply #143 |
155. Because he can't without looking like he is pandering |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #155 |
178. So instead he panders to bigots. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #178 |
181. Andy ou clearly do not care about voters are religious. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:38 PM Response to Reply #181 |
189. People who cheer and clap after a homophobic sermon |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:52 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. cos and apology and crawling on glass is ofcourse the same thing. |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
68. how right you are. -- and of course the donnie thing really does have meaning. |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:02 AM Response to Reply #68 |
69. ex gays cause death in our families and nothing on earth will convince me otherwise |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #69 |
71. and the stories haven't yet begun to be told. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 12:08 PM Response to Reply #63 |
75. I do no think it is the least bit insignificant. ANybody who spends anytime |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. If Hillary had a KKK member MC a rally for her but said "I don't agree with him" |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #75 |
109. In other words... |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
62. i will vote for hillary clinton and be very happy with my vote. |
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Apollo11 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 10:10 AM Response to Original message |
67. Obama should stand up for diversity and human rights. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #67 |
72. We will have to work with Obama |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 02:52 PM Response to Reply #67 |
81. But you discount hi whole political history because an aide in SC |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 03:27 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. Totally inaccurate. Human Rights Campaign warned Obama. Don't blame it on |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:46 PM Response to Reply #83 |
110. They warned him publicly in a frigging press release, |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:10 PM Response to Reply #110 |
144. You think there was no call to his campaign prior to press releases? |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #110 |
183. Wah they threatened him |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:12 PM Response to Reply #81 |
88. McClurkin is only the tip of the iceberg |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:14 PM Response to Original message |
90. I'm getting tired of hearing about the McClurkin issue. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:22 PM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Been here less than a month and you're already "tired" of it? |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:32 PM Original message |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:32 PM Response to Reply #90 |
96. Hey, it's a member of your Obamacan family who reheated it, so don't blame us. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:45 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. It doesn't matter who started the thread. |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #90 |
113. Then move on. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:19 PM Response to Original message |
91. Yes the evil gays ran your poor candidate into the alley. |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:26 PM Response to Original message |
93. For the life of me, I can't fathom what the point of this OP was. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:33 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. This is quite typical of Perky though... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:34 PM Response to Reply #93 |
101. There were some OPs which suggest they would support Obama |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #101 |
117. I'd send him a really nice letter of thanks |
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Sapphocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:11 PM Response to Reply #117 |
122. Other issues? You mean like... |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #122 |
139. That's what I mean |
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Zenlitened (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:44 PM Response to Reply #101 |
137. So... your response was to start a new thread scolding the GLBT community... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. You are reading my OP completely incorrectly |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
97. Thing is, I've met supporters of his who don't think it will hurt him |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:36 PM Original message |
Thank you for your integrity. I wish more Obama supporters were like you. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:36 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. self-delete |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. No doubt cycical....and it shouldnot have been said... but that is how politrcs works. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:53 PM Response to Reply #107 |
114. Cynical maybe |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:59 PM Response to Reply #114 |
118. but you seem to be blaming Obama for the comments of an aide. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:42 PM Response to Reply #118 |
136. I'm not blaming Obama for the comments of an aide |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:51 PM Response to Reply #136 |
140. I submit that he was never given the opportunity to walk it back |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:14 PM Response to Reply #140 |
148. He's had a chance every minute of every day. You may think gays are ATMs for cash and votes, |
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REDFISHBLUEFISH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #148 |
167. I am straight but will make another donation to Hillary in the gay communities honor. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:24 PM Response to Reply #140 |
168. Terribly bad form? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:39 AM Response to Reply #168 |
176. I can't believe you using Imus as a parallel. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:19 AM Response to Reply #176 |
179. Imus/McClurkin. Both offensive. But 0bama only thinks one is not worth his "outreach". |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #176 |
184. Imus is a parallel |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:48 PM Response to Reply #97 |
111. Thank you |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:31 PM Response to Reply #97 |
132. Dude, he stood up against homophobia in the black community, on the EVE of the SC primary |
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LittleClarkie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #132 |
133. Dudette. Do you have a link? |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:41 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. It's his MLK day speech, here are the links: |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #135 |
147. Nice speeches, but very poor actions, with McClurkin and Kirbyjon. |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 05:21 PM Response to Reply #147 |
185. Very poor actions from the Clinton's with Don't Ask Don't Tell... |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
100. That is the reality of the situation. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. How did we "run him into an alley"? If he apologized immediately it would've been a non-issue. |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #104 |
112. You do not know that. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:20 PM Response to Reply #104 |
127. He could've/should've said alot of things. |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #100 |
105. . |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 04:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
115. He apolgized for it ALREADY. The same week. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #115 |
120. I don't see an apology there, I see an excuse... |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:08 PM Response to Reply #115 |
121. Obama has apologized for McClurkin as much as Clinton has apologized for her IWR vote |
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magatte (323 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:29 PM Response to Reply #121 |
130. He knows what he's done his whole political life and that is to fight for civil rights for EVERYONE |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #130 |
145. The IWR vote was not to send the troops to Iraq |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #130 |
146. Go learn what an apology is. This wasn't one. NT |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #130 |
169. He sure voted to keep funding the war, though, didn't he? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 05:57 PM Response to Reply #115 |
141. That's not an apology |
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Sybbis (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
151. Predictable, but messy... |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #151 |
153. I agree.. I just do not think that McClurkin was chosen for his ex-gay views |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:08 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. Please, spit out the koolaid. McClurkin was a known element and he was given a platform |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:13 PM Response to Reply #156 |
157. Do you have any evidence that suggest the promotion was of McClurking and |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:22 PM Response to Reply #157 |
159. Only if you consider reason and common sense to be evidence. NT |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:29 PM Response to Reply #159 |
161. of which you are expressing niether on that point |
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readmoreoften (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 02:05 PM Response to Reply #161 |
182. You're so completely ignorant of LGBT issues, you have no idea what is reasonable. |
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hulklogan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:31 PM Response to Reply #157 |
162. Whether the event was held to promote McClurkin and his bigoted views |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #162 |
164. That I think is a fair criticism |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
166. Right. The gay community ran HIM into an alley. Poor, poor Obama. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
172. His stance on GLBT issues is good. There is no real issue. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-01-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #172 |
173. There is no issue for people who don't care much about GLBT issues. NT |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:05 AM Response to Reply #172 |
177. No issue for straight folks. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 10:46 AM Response to Reply #172 |
180. Senator Clinton did an interview with the gay and lesbian Logo channel. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 06:46 PM Response to Reply #180 |
186. Sorry, this is not a real issue. Straight people have determined that for us. |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #186 |
187. Right you are |
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Evergreen Emerald (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
188. more proof that Obama walks on water. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-02-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. "The gays ran HIM into an alley." |
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