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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:23 AM Original message |
Obama is the only candidate making race an issue. |
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
1. So what your really saying is he is using race because he is black |
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SammyWinstonJack
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:47 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. ... |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. No. What I'm saying is that he's using race for political gain. |
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smoogatz
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:26 PM Response to Reply #8 |
21. Got a link to the actual quote, in context? |
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neutron
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #21 |
63. Ted Kennedy is saying "vote Obama because it's politically correct" |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:50 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. There's a lot of that feeling circulating Obama's campaign. |
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doc03
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
3. Do you have your fire retardent |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Yes, you've named some of the other examples... |
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doc03
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. He has gotten a total free ride |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
24. It did hurt his candidacy, though I suspect it wouldn't have mattered. |
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niceypoo
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Obama's campaign is based on reacting to anything Hillary says |
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jakem
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. Clinton (HR) is using gender, but Clinton (B) is using race. |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:11 PM Original message |
Whatever. |
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jakem
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
31. that was a great and helpful comment. thanks! |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:56 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. Give me something to comment on and I will. |
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Bluerthanblue
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
43. "Whatever"- is code word for "I refuse to admit I'm wrong- even when it's obvious". |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. And you say this why? |
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Cameron27
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
5. I agree |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:00 PM Response to Original message |
6. I agree with you. Obama accused Clinton of racism to win SC |
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doc03
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. I don't know how many times I have heard |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:18 PM Response to Reply #11 |
18. I know some guys who do that too. |
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pampango
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
16. That poor Obama using the "Jackson" strategy to win SC and lose the nomination. |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. you are ignoring the facts. In fact, it is laughable that people actually |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. That American dynamic saddens and frightens me as well. |
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pampango
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The only person who would benefits, in terms of who wins the nomination, is Clinton. |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:58 PM Response to Reply #29 |
35. And, of course, the MSM. |
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doc03
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:50 PM Response to Reply #23 |
49. Exactly, why can't people see that? Why in the hell |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. This is what I don't understand: how did B. Clinton make Obama the BLACK candidate? |
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pampango
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. It sounds like we agree that Obama is intelligent, it would be unethical for anyone |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. It sounds like where we differ is that I don't think a double standard is ok. |
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:40 AM Response to Reply #36 |
53. Well, that thread was useful in at least inspiring your post. |
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doc03
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:46 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Now why would bill Clinton intentionally |
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pampango
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:03 AM Response to Reply #48 |
62. Oh, come on. Why would Bill be reluctant to lose SC, if it enhanced benefited Hillary's chances? |
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jasmine621
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Just watched in Idaho. Making promises that sound very much like things |
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krkaufman
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
54. re: "angry about his remark ... she wouldn't get votes from his supporters" |
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krkaufman
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:59 AM Response to Reply #7 |
56. Re: "it is the most divisive statement of the campaign so far" |
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Rock_Garden
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. I do agree that he whipped it up way too much. |
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blm
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. You DON'T KNOW Clintons like you think you do. THEY brought up race |
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Evergreen Emerald
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:34 PM Response to Reply #10 |
25. I disagree. And if you look at the timeline and the facts...they do not support |
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krkaufman
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:07 AM Response to Reply #25 |
57. Re: "the only person who would benefit from racial animosity is Obama" |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. You're suggesting that the Clintons didn't know... |
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blm
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. And Bill chose to appeal to the OTHER STATES where the NEXT primaries were being held. |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:42 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. With what rhetoric? |
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krkaufman
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:10 AM Response to Reply #32 |
58. It wasn't about South Carolina. It was about branding Obama ... |
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Adelante
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
13. Well, I've lost respect for both Clintons |
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niceypoo
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:17 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Because of a frenzy of media spin |
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Adelante
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #17 |
33. I don't need media spin or Republicans to help me in making my own judgments |
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krkaufman
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:15 AM Response to Reply #13 |
61. Ditto. My shift began immediately after Iowa ... |
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Levgreee
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
19. I've heard the clintons say BLACK/BROWN etc. 20x more than Obama has |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #19 |
37. "Obama has tried very hard to avoid race..." this is hogwash. |
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smoogatz
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:25 PM Response to Original message |
20. Agreed. It's totally unfair that he's black. |
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DiamondJay
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:27 PM Response to Original message |
22. in every obama speech "asians and latinos, blacks and whites" |
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intheozone
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
28. Well said. I also perceived that it was the Obama camp |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. Good post. I totally agree. |
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maximusveritas
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Sat Feb-02-08 12:46 PM Response to Original message |
30. This is why an African-American will always have trouble winning |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. I disagree. Obama wouldn't have gotten this far... |
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. The 'race card' is an idiotic invention of racists... |
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ginchinchili
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Yes, it's one of those terms that people create meaning for... |
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Bluerthanblue
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Sat Feb-02-08 01:50 PM Response to Reply #42 |
47. good point- like "tree-huggers" for those who point at global warming |
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Political Heretic
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
77. Thank you. |
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Cha
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Sat Feb-02-08 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. What a crock o' |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:25 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Thanks, but I'm not a player in this primary race. |
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Lucinda
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:21 AM Response to Original message |
51. I couldn't agree more. And if he loses, I think this will be why. |
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BootinUp
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:57 AM Response to Original message |
55. Personally |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:55 PM Response to Reply #55 |
67. I agree, accept that Obama really hurt Hillary in the black community... |
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ErnestoG
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
59. Bill Clinton pulled out the race card, not Obama. |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 01:56 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. How did Bill Clinton use race against Obama? |
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margotb822
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Sun Feb-03-08 04:13 AM Response to Original message |
60. Read ESPN magazine |
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Perry Logan
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Sun Feb-03-08 06:28 AM Response to Original message |
64. The Obama people talk race constantly. They're obsessed with it. |
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sylvieb
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Sun Feb-03-08 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
65. What if Obama were WHITE? |
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doc03
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Sun Feb-03-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. I think if he was white |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:11 PM Response to Reply #66 |
71. I agree with you, too. I've been amazed at how little scrutinity Obama has gotten... |
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doc03
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Sun Feb-03-08 11:27 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. I haven't read Obama's book but from what I have heard |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:09 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. I think your professors are wrong. |
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Aviation Pro
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
70. But I will still vote for him in the GE.... |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:13 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. If that was the real goal of Democrats they would have nominated Biden. |
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jillan
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
73. One thing I don't get about Obama is |
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ginchinchili
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Sun Feb-03-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. That's a good question. |
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Sun Feb-03-08 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
74. Obama's Swiftboating of Clinton on Race worked in SC. |
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