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papau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:17 PM Original message |
Obama has now won 5 "blue states" and 13 "red"(of which 2 were "close red" in 04) - why would he be |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:19 PM Response to Original message |
1. Because the solid blue states will stay blue, and Obama is more likely to win... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:21 PM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Ding ding ding...we have a winna! n/t |
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neutron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Hillary still has the Delegates |
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stahbrett (855 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:29 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. She has a percentage of the delegates, not all of them |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:32 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Not after today, my friend, not after today...n/t |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:01 AM Response to Reply #17 |
37. As of right this minute Hillary has 1100 delegates BO has 1039 |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:48 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Pledged delegates, my friend. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 07:58 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. The point is...with all Obama's wins...he's not ahead, my friend.. |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
26. Precisely !!! |
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HeraldSquare212 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 11:26 AM Response to Reply #1 |
54. Exactly - and the point is to expand the battleground, not hunker down in safe states and hope |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
2. Conservative, DLC Democrats are voting for the most conservative Democrat running |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Again, not in Washington! n/t |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:41 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. One state disproves a national pattern? |
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cloudythescribbler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:05 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. I can't figure out what the theory is here, but CO, MN, CT, and WA are all "exceptions?" |
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Alexander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. And Missouri, and Iowa, and Illinois, and Delaware.... |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:25 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. bwahahaha. |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:40 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. MD |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:03 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. I live here. Obama has raised over $400,,000 in VT. Clinton? $47,000 |
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WillyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. And Of The Three... Which Do You Find Most Offensive ??? |
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NJSecularist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
3. Because the states that Hillary has won will stay blue anyways |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
5. ahhh....because he can win the red states. |
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MadBadger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
8. Is it that hard to swallow the gracious pill tonight? |
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book_worm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Let's hope in November he wins CO, MO and IA because if he does he will win the election |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
45. MIssouri will not go blue. Winning a Democratic caucus in CO isn't a great predictor |
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kevsand (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Missouri has elected democrats for both governor and us senate in the not too distant past. |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Here we go |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:25 PM Response to Original message |
11. Is this based on the assumption that Clinton voters won't vote for Obama? |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
13. Because he will win any Blue state that Hillary can... Do not be stupid. |
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Buve (106 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. whaaaa |
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Perky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Look at missouri. Look at Connecticut... look at Virginia |
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VolcanoJen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
39. Except in November, none of that matters. |
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milkyway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:26 PM Response to Original message |
14. Because in the blue states he'll be running against a repug, not a Dem. I could run |
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Skip Intro (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
15. he's only running against Dems (mostly) in those states |
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ginnyinWI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #15 |
36. Dems are out-voting and out-donating the Repubs now--- |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:34 PM Response to Original message |
18. Obama is stronger because he can win the blue AND red states. |
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high density (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
19. In the general election you already have "the base" |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
20. In the Dem primaries, there are no "red" states. They're all blue. |
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Nailzberg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:39 PM Response to Original message |
21. Blue states are called blue states for a reason. |
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Bonobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
24. Answer post #11. |
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ecstatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
25. Question: Do you trust Dean's 50 state strategy? nt |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-09-08 11:06 PM Response to Original message |
31. The "base" states are going to vote for Obama anyway. |
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last_texas_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:07 AM Response to Original message |
33. Are you expecting Democratic base voters to abandon the party if Obama |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:46 AM Response to Original message |
35. Do you think he's going to LOSE to McCain in California? Please! |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:14 AM Response to Reply #35 |
46. He barely has a chance at this. These states are conservative-leaning and |
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RoadRage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #46 |
53. They "may" not go to him.. but they DEFINITELY will not go to Hillary |
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windbreeze (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 02:04 AM Response to Original message |
40. How Many "red" states that he's won allow |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
42. No Obama won't be stronger or viable at all in the "red" states.. |
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returnable (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
43. Gee. You're right. In fact, if a Dem has no chance of carrying a state in the GE... |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
44. Of Obama's 18 winning states, only 2 are battlegrounds. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:14 AM Response to Original message |
47. He's winning. ding ding ding ding ding. dt |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:18 AM Response to Original message |
48. Let me 'splain it to you, child. You see, the Republicans don't have as much money... |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 09:27 AM Response to Reply #48 |
49. hahaha! You've got to be kidding...if $$$ is the reason Repubs will fail..hahaha! |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:00 AM Response to Reply #49 |
50. Get online and look at the numbers. The gop is far far behind the Dems in $$$$. |
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Tellurian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:13 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. The RNC has big bucks for the GE. To think otherwise, is a fools errand.. |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
52. We're not going to lose the base blue states. It'd be nice to run a democratic who's liked in red |
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Carrieyazel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. When you say "liked in red", Obama has won blue voters in those red states |
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AP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-10-08 04:29 PM Response to Reply #55 |
57. You don't win 2:1 in LA without picking up a few Dems who might have voted for Jindahl. |
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