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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:42 PM Original message |
Barack Obama's Appalling Position On IRAQ |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Clintons appalling position on IRAQ: YES |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:49 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. This isn't about Clinton |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. Your post wasn't about Clinton, |
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nonconformist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #24 |
54. Not necessarily, because if he gets the nomination |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. At the time he took this position, it was the most responsible |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. It is extremely irresponsible |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:52 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. No need to dig your own grave, I've already done it for you... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
50. Please |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #5 |
32. what he says insn't appalling, its what the OP interjects |
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RUMMYisFROSTED (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:41 PM Response to Reply #5 |
33. McCain, Clinton or Obama. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Yep |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
81. Obama supporters won't discuss his positions |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:31 AM Response to Reply #1 |
87. Changing the subject doesn't change what Obama has said and done... |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
2. how many votes would he lose if he stated |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. I'll take that bet |
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fenriswolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. well just have to wait and see |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
77. Better to curry favor with the right wing than rescue our country from disaster |
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respublicus (99 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
80. Yeah, that's why he wants to bomb Pakistan. The people are tired of war. Obama not. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:45 PM Response to Original message |
3. BO is a political chameleon. n/t |
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rodeodance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:23 PM Response to Reply #3 |
73. Savior's offering up a plate of Redemption can do that |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
4. Clinton's appalling position on IRAN: YES |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:56 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. Obama on Iran |
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Yael (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Her campaign is OVER. Done, finished, off the cliff OVER. |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:08 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. This wasn't about HER |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #7 |
45. You slam Obama, then slam Hillary, so I have to ask... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Your comment |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
65. Your insinuation is insulting. |
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Straight Shooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. You do not know OG, and you must not be familiar with OG's positions. |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #52 |
62. Enlighten me. |
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jillan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. And we will never know how Obama would have voted because he DIDN'T |
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jackson_dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
29. The vote came up at the debate but Obama conspicously said nothing |
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Cameron27 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:51 PM Response to Reply #29 |
83. That's right, |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
78. Link? |
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paparush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
6. Don't any of these Fucking Pols (tm) know that they swear to defend THE CONSTITUTION! |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Hurrah |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
8. FU! I've had enough of the baiting of Barack to say we must withdraw on day one. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:01 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Hurrah with that kind of position on Iraq |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I need to bookmark this for future reference |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:06 PM Response to Reply #8 |
13. Hello? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
16. You're really milking that one policy paper you quoted here yesterday for all its worth, aren't |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. I don't think it's about Hillary any more |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. Wrong |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. I did look at the link and it spells out his centrist plan |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. OG.. I've read his policy. I commented and responded to you a couple days ago in the FIRST |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. The truth |
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calmblueocean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:18 PM Response to Original message |
20. Obama ain't Kucinich, but I knew that already. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #20 |
79. How will Obama pay for it? |
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Johnny__Motown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:22 PM Response to Original message |
22. You confuse combat forces with security forces. No combat forces means no war |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Really? |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. What are you debating, that Hillary has a better plan? McCain? n/t |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:54 PM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Why |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Nothing to address, except the word appalling is in your title and has nothing to do with Obama. n/t |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
26. K&R |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:43 PM Response to Original message |
34. Phased re-deployment, as a matter of fact... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Tired sports metaphors |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Again, Murtha on Phased Redeployment. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:44 PM Response to Original message |
35. To my anti-war friends: |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. apparently boppers is defending this |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #41 |
51. Sorry, wasn't aware she was out yet. |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #51 |
63. To provide for our security |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-16-08 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. Are people who support Obama really defending this? |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. A unilateral withdraw "overnight", which I can only ascertain |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
46. You are wrong |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:37 AM Response to Reply #46 |
56. Did not and do not support Illegal occupation. |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #43 |
49. This was the same rhetoric that was used by the GOP |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:23 AM Response to Reply #37 |
53. Do you have an alternative? |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:26 AM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Vote your conscious |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:39 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. That's CONSCIENCE. |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #37 |
60. Defending Hillary's pro war vote? Never. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:58 AM Response to Reply #37 |
64. do you expect... |
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Orwellian_Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #64 |
67. Dreamy thought eh? |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I would expect nothing different... |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:30 AM Response to Reply #37 |
86. I'm missing the outrage |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:38 AM Response to Original message |
57. here's something else... |
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ErnestoG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:39 AM Response to Original message |
58. Karl Rove....is that you?? |
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LadyVT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
61. Thank you for this information. |
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Blue State Bandit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
66. OG, since you obviously believe that you know more that most... |
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sloppyjoe25s (664 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
68. he is SO DEVOID of substance |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
70. The only appalling position all along re: Iraq belongs to Hillary Clinton. |
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lxlxlxl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #70 |
74. ...x... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
75. ClintonCo plays into that with their redux of "It's the economy, stupid." 2.0 |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
71. I love how everyone thinks B or H will make things all better |
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Seabiscuit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
72. Nothing more than a rehash of Nixon's failed "Vietnamization" plan. |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
76. Phased redeployment = $10 billion month = collapsing economy |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 01:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. Of course none of this would be an issue if certain people hadn't |
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OzarkDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-17-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Yes it would |
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UALRBSofL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-19-08 01:27 AM Response to Reply #84 |
85. It sure would |
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